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re: Baton Rouge streetcar thread

Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:17 pm to
Also, I might add that the notion that "who's going to ride it...it's only ghetto and a couple apartment buildings" is flawed. Infrastructure encourages development., this is something I hope in my lifetime people in Louisiana come to understand. But regardless, we already know of the plans they have already for the area.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 10:19 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:23 pm to
no one downtown is going to get on this train except for lsu games. are we expecting all the people on the north side of campus on nicholson to use this?

like another said, if it extends to brightside, that would be good.

if youre expecting lsu students to be the primary people using this to go downtown, it wont be successful. college students arent using public transportation to go out at night. we had the drunk bus when i was at lsu and barely anyone used it.
Posted by 3rdShore
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:27 pm to
I think it would great for development of the area between LSU and downtown and create a really neat district in the area, but the bottom line is it will cost $100-200 million and primarily benefit LSU students, who will be contributing none of that. It will also likely benefit downtown growth which is great. But the main problem is where is the money to build it going to come from, and how will this 3 mile stretch of transportation benefit even a fraction of the residents of BR?

The people that live downtown would only need to go to LSU for sporting events. The students from LSU will use it to go downtown, and the people in between may benefit from some short distance transport.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 10:38 pm
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

no one downtown is going to get on this train except for lsu games. are we expecting all the people on the north side of campus on nicholson to use this?


Humor me for a minute. In the next 10-15 years, imagine that all the land in between LSU and Nicholson becomes the new brightside, if you will, with modern developed aprtment complexes and mixed-use facilities. This is already in the works, actually, and there's land there. You basically create a population shift from the south side of campus to the north, and downtown, which is already inherently better than the current option, becomes the main entertainment district for LSU. Further, it'd be a great area for young professionals in town with places like IBM already downtown. Now you get some utility out of this thing. Of course, game days are a plus.

quote:

like another said, if it extends to brightside, that would be good.


Sure, maybe one day. You have to start somewhere.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Rollwave034
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:56 pm to
Tulane students use the streetcar all the time to go to the area around avenue pub and continue on to Fq esp during high tourist seasons (Halloween, holidays, etc). Why wouldn't lsu students use cheap public transportation instead of drinking and driving or waiting forever for cabs/uber??
Posted by Halftrack
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:04 pm to
Oh, it's sooo cool!


Yeah, right! That shite will be broken and nobody will ride it. It will be a boondoggle. Why not just get on a frickin' bus for God's sake? What's so special about rail?
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:06 pm to
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Extend it to Brightside 


To NOLA first then Lafayette
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:10 pm to
Will be a boondoggle.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:14 pm to
It won't happen.
Posted by Pelfan8104
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Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:17 pm to
Got a text earlier tonight. 4 dark complected males in robbery off Aster street. I'm not getting on any streetcar near that side of campus. It needs to change a lot to make this feel like a good idea. Lsu emergency texts are going out all the time about all the crime. Put a streetcar line to the suburbs for all of us who had to move to escape the ghetto and now sit in traffic 2 hours a day.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

Tulane students use the streetcar all the time to go to the area around avenue pub and continue on to Fq esp during high tourist seasons (Halloween, holidays, etc). Why wouldn't lsu students use cheap public transportation instead of drinking and driving or waiting forever for cabs/uber??



Tulane students probably account for less than 5% of the people using the street cars.

With the streetcar in this thread, LSU students are not going to use this anymore than Tulane students. The percentage will be higher because well BR has no tourist industry like Nola.

LSU students have free public transportation and they still dont use it. Hell, the drunk bus drove to the bars and made a loop around all the apartment complexes and people still didnt use it. It was a good idea but think about how a drunk 21 year old is thinking when they are going out drinking. Hey we can wait around for the bus/train/whatever to go out or we can just get in the car and go. This is especially true if a group is leaving the bar and going somewhere else. No one is waiting 20-30 minutes at midnight for public transportation when you can pile in a car or just Uber within a few minutes.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:31 pm to
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I don't understand how people oppose this


Most people can't see past the end of their nose, hence the ubiquitous comments about CATS buses being a total waste of money. They help more people than one would think, and any sprawling city without a public transit system is a joke.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:36 pm to
Theres already a bus that runs that route and its free, yet only lightly utilized. Explain to me why putting the bus on a fixed track makes it more useful?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

Most people can't see past the end of their nose, hence the ubiquitous comments about CATS buses being a total waste of money. They help more people than one would think, and any sprawling city without a public transit system is a joke.



People in here are seeing past the end of their noses. This train route goes from LSU to downtown. Very little LSU students are going to use this. This leaves non-LSU students in a very small area using this to go downtown and people downtown people using it to come to LSU. Why would a person living downtown use this train to go to LSU except for 7 days out of the year?

Lets say this is built and runs this route. Just speaking hypothetically here but this is a very real scenario. A group of LSU girls use it to go out and go downtown drinking. They get on it to go back to campus and some ghetto arse dude is on there acting like a creep. Boom thats their last trip on there for them and probably all of their friends they tell about.

Lsu students that live on campus are also not going to use this to go downtown to drink because those bars are actually strict with underage drinking. Students living on campus tend to be freshmen and sophomores and these students are going to Tigerland and Bogies.

If this is going to cost 100 million, that money can be better used elsewhere
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:45 pm
Posted by lsufan112001
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:49 pm to
Waste of money
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

Extend it to Brightside and it would make alot more sense

it would, but this is for a streetcar and Nicholson becomes only one lane each way long before that
Posted by c on z
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

They get on it to go back to campus and some ghetto arse dude is on there acting like a creep. Boom thats their last trip on there for them and probably all of their friends they tell about.

Somehow, this is probably more likely to happen during the day, than during the late night. I used to drive for Uber, and go up and and down that corridor. It is absolutely dead out there along that stretch. Rarely saw anyone.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:59 pm to
Maybe so but this crew of girls arent going to be using this during the day. This will be used to go out by LSU students and nothing else.

Do you think this streetcar would work right there?
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 12:16 am to
Wouldn't busses do the same thing, be cheaper, and more flexible?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 12:20 am to
yes, yes, and yes


and lsu students still dont use them. they use them to get to school during the morning and daytime hours but thats it
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