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3rdShore
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re: Remote located receiver dilemma help
Posted by 3rdShore on 2/19/23 at 2:31 pm to Hopeful Doc
Awesome, thanks again for all the information. Once we get moved in if anything doesn't seem to flow correctly I'll pop back in this thread. I will also try and update it with the resolution in case it helps anyone in the future.
Another tangential question...at my previous house I installed nice faceplates on the walls for any HDMI/data/speaker connections, and here they just have the HDMI and Cat 6 it through a passthrough (they do have the 5.1 connections on a faceplate, but not my other in-ceiling speakers). Is there too much downside to installing faceplates where the HDMI run would terminate and then I'd connect another HDMI from the faceplate to device?
Cleaner look with a faceplate for sure, but I have two concerns on each end of that equation:
1) Without a faceplate I worry about the sole HDMI or Cat 6 cable getting damaged from any ongoing connecting/disconnecting to devices (even though that will be few and far between).
2 With a faceplate I worry about introducing any unnecessary interference at the connection since it will be behind/near quite a few electronic devices in the media closet.
Another tangential question...at my previous house I installed nice faceplates on the walls for any HDMI/data/speaker connections, and here they just have the HDMI and Cat 6 it through a passthrough (they do have the 5.1 connections on a faceplate, but not my other in-ceiling speakers). Is there too much downside to installing faceplates where the HDMI run would terminate and then I'd connect another HDMI from the faceplate to device?
Cleaner look with a faceplate for sure, but I have two concerns on each end of that equation:
1) Without a faceplate I worry about the sole HDMI or Cat 6 cable getting damaged from any ongoing connecting/disconnecting to devices (even though that will be few and far between).
2 With a faceplate I worry about introducing any unnecessary interference at the connection since it will be behind/near quite a few electronic devices in the media closet.
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I confirmed that I have the Harmony Home Control which became the Harmony Companion, and it utilizes RF to communicate with the hub, and also has Wi-Fi capabilities.
re: Remote located receiver dilemma help
Posted by 3rdShore on 2/19/23 at 6:59 am to Hopeful Doc
Sounds like I should be good one way or another, as long as the existing cables remain functional.
I was saying Harmony IR setup because it's been a bit since I've used it and couldn't recall which one I have. I do have a Harmony Hub that I believe has Wi-Fi capability and a phone app that can be used for control. I can't determine at the moment which exact model it is. It may even use RF rather than IR because I think I was mistakenly confusing the blaster to power the TV on and off with an IR eye to communicate with the hub for the Harmony. In hindsight, I don't think I need line of sight to use the Harmony remote.
You alluded to this in your previous response, but it sounds like I may be able to use the BAFX Ethernet IR adapters to run the existing Harmony blaster using the Cat 6 that's in place to the TV and keep the Harmony Hub in the closet for the other video devices. Otherwise can always get the BAFX IR Repeater. Once again, I appreciate the detailed responses.
I was saying Harmony IR setup because it's been a bit since I've used it and couldn't recall which one I have. I do have a Harmony Hub that I believe has Wi-Fi capability and a phone app that can be used for control. I can't determine at the moment which exact model it is. It may even use RF rather than IR because I think I was mistakenly confusing the blaster to power the TV on and off with an IR eye to communicate with the hub for the Harmony. In hindsight, I don't think I need line of sight to use the Harmony remote.
You alluded to this in your previous response, but it sounds like I may be able to use the BAFX Ethernet IR adapters to run the existing Harmony blaster using the Cat 6 that's in place to the TV and keep the Harmony Hub in the closet for the other video devices. Otherwise can always get the BAFX IR Repeater. Once again, I appreciate the detailed responses.
re: Remote located receiver dilemma help
Posted by 3rdShore on 2/18/23 at 6:42 pm to Hopeful Doc
Thanks for the thorough and informative response!
Great summary, that’s the current plan. I think at this point the first option SHOULD work.
I use everything through AppleTV >99% of the time, so the other video devices are lagniappe anyway, but I just need them to work reasonably conveniently.
I don’t need the hardwire for the TV anyway at this time, so this would be a great situation if the other fore-mentioned options don’t work. I also have four Cat 6 drops in the closet, so wired connectivity is not really a concern there otherwise.
I assume with this setup I’ll be able to setup my existing Harmony IR remote setup in the closet as well and utilize it if needed for any additional devices?
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I’d start by putting the Apple TV into the receiver and using CEC
Doesn’t work?
Mount the Apple TV at the tv
Doesn’t work?
Get the components above and use Apple TV IR
Doesn’t work?
Get a universal ir remote.
Great summary, that’s the current plan. I think at this point the first option SHOULD work.
I use everything through AppleTV >99% of the time, so the other video devices are lagniappe anyway, but I just need them to work reasonably conveniently.
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If you put it in the closet, you can get a BAFX IR over Ethernet repeater and put all components in the closet. You’ll lose your ability to hardwire your TV. It would serve no purpose. But you’d be able to IR everything with that set up.
I don’t need the hardwire for the TV anyway at this time, so this would be a great situation if the other fore-mentioned options don’t work. I also have four Cat 6 drops in the closet, so wired connectivity is not really a concern there otherwise.
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this + this, but your plan for “other components” Is not particularly flushed out without a universal remote.
I assume with this setup I’ll be able to setup my existing Harmony IR remote setup in the closet as well and utilize it if needed for any additional devices?
Thanks. I have a tough time with brevity because I want to provide all the considerations.
I tested today in the current house and I’m thinking I can remotely position the AppleTV in the closet with the receiver and the AppleTV remote will hopefully power on the AppleTV, the receiver, and the TV. I’m also hopeful that via CEC or ARC, or however all that works I can then control the DVD/Blu-Ray with one of my existing remotes via the TV…
Any confirmation or suggestions certainly help.
I tested today in the current house and I’m thinking I can remotely position the AppleTV in the closet with the receiver and the AppleTV remote will hopefully power on the AppleTV, the receiver, and the TV. I’m also hopeful that via CEC or ARC, or however all that works I can then control the DVD/Blu-Ray with one of my existing remotes via the TV…
Any confirmation or suggestions certainly help.
Remote located receiver dilemma help
Posted by 3rdShore on 2/18/23 at 9:17 am
AV connections and functions occasionally get a little murky for me, so I need a little guidance to get this set up properly.
The main dilemma is that I only have one Cat 6 and one HDMI run through a chase to where most audio video components and surround speaker connections will be. I primarily use AppleTV for almost all viewing, but also need remote access for the other faraway components (DVD/Blu-Ray, or other HDMI devices), potentially without the ability to run an IR blaster through the chase.
We are wrapping up construction on a new home, and have a challenge that I’m worried about being able to overcome. With the home design we are forced to have an over the mantle TV. I like a clean/simple appearance (no cables running everywhere), and thought we had a decent plan in place.
The components will be in a remotely located closet ~50’ from the TV. There is a chase, but all that was run is a Cat 6 and HDMI cable (should have at least had a coaxial, but they didn’t run it). I asked them to at least run another “pull” cable so I could pull through any further cords, and the chase they ran is so small they couldn’t even pull through another Cat 6 and the cables were getting bound and damaged trying to pull it through.
We typically use the AppleTV remote to power on the TV and I’m honestly not sure exactly how it works, whether it uses the IR via the TV and CEC to power on the AppleTV, or whether it uses Bluetooth via the AppleTV and CEC to power on the TV.
This is a schematic of the setup to help visualize the scenario:
NEEDS:
- Ability to turn TV on with AppleTV remote
- Ability to to utilize AppleTV with surround speakers which are sourced from closet
- Ability for other remotely located closet video devices to be easily controlled from TV location in living room.
CONCERNS:
- I currently have only the one Cat 6 and one HDMI in the chase from the TV to the closet. More runs may not be feasible at this time. I was hoping to run an IR cable here as well to help with remote controlling the faraway devices, but may not be able with the too narrow chase, and no pull cable in place.
- I do not have a cable in the chase for an IR blaster (I do have a Harmony remote that previously worked well at the previous home where I could run cables much easier as needed).
QUESTIONS:
- Where should I connect the AppleTV (at receiver or at TV) in order to power on TV with AppleTV remote?
- Is it possible to have the AppleTV connected directly to the TV, and then still have the audio from this AppleTV connected to the surround speakers with only the one HDMI in the chase (i.e. would ARC somehow accomplish this…can the audio run from AppleTV - TV - Receiver with only the one HDMI in the chase, and me still be able to run other video components from the receiver to the TV using the same HDMI cable)?
- Where should I connect the AppleTV? Direct to the TV, or directly to the Receiver? If connected directly to the receiver will I be able to power it AND the TV on and control it remotely with the AppleTV remote?
- Should I just force the issue with the low-voltage guys to get them to run more cables through the chase?
- Will a RF remote resolve any problems?
- Am I missing something more obvious that can make this work easily?
Thanks!
The main dilemma is that I only have one Cat 6 and one HDMI run through a chase to where most audio video components and surround speaker connections will be. I primarily use AppleTV for almost all viewing, but also need remote access for the other faraway components (DVD/Blu-Ray, or other HDMI devices), potentially without the ability to run an IR blaster through the chase.
We are wrapping up construction on a new home, and have a challenge that I’m worried about being able to overcome. With the home design we are forced to have an over the mantle TV. I like a clean/simple appearance (no cables running everywhere), and thought we had a decent plan in place.
The components will be in a remotely located closet ~50’ from the TV. There is a chase, but all that was run is a Cat 6 and HDMI cable (should have at least had a coaxial, but they didn’t run it). I asked them to at least run another “pull” cable so I could pull through any further cords, and the chase they ran is so small they couldn’t even pull through another Cat 6 and the cables were getting bound and damaged trying to pull it through.
We typically use the AppleTV remote to power on the TV and I’m honestly not sure exactly how it works, whether it uses the IR via the TV and CEC to power on the AppleTV, or whether it uses Bluetooth via the AppleTV and CEC to power on the TV.
This is a schematic of the setup to help visualize the scenario:
NEEDS:
- Ability to turn TV on with AppleTV remote
- Ability to to utilize AppleTV with surround speakers which are sourced from closet
- Ability for other remotely located closet video devices to be easily controlled from TV location in living room.
CONCERNS:
- I currently have only the one Cat 6 and one HDMI in the chase from the TV to the closet. More runs may not be feasible at this time. I was hoping to run an IR cable here as well to help with remote controlling the faraway devices, but may not be able with the too narrow chase, and no pull cable in place.
- I do not have a cable in the chase for an IR blaster (I do have a Harmony remote that previously worked well at the previous home where I could run cables much easier as needed).
QUESTIONS:
- Where should I connect the AppleTV (at receiver or at TV) in order to power on TV with AppleTV remote?
- Is it possible to have the AppleTV connected directly to the TV, and then still have the audio from this AppleTV connected to the surround speakers with only the one HDMI in the chase (i.e. would ARC somehow accomplish this…can the audio run from AppleTV - TV - Receiver with only the one HDMI in the chase, and me still be able to run other video components from the receiver to the TV using the same HDMI cable)?
- Where should I connect the AppleTV? Direct to the TV, or directly to the Receiver? If connected directly to the receiver will I be able to power it AND the TV on and control it remotely with the AppleTV remote?
- Should I just force the issue with the low-voltage guys to get them to run more cables through the chase?
- Will a RF remote resolve any problems?
- Am I missing something more obvious that can make this work easily?
Thanks!
I read somewhere throughout all this mess that she goes by Blasey in general. I think she just tried to go by Ford for this fiasco to try and protect a smidge of her previous anonymity.
I also think their original intent would be that the anonymous letter and polygraph would have been enough to tank the nomination, and when they saw that wasn't going to work she was forced out of her hopeful anonymity.
I also think their original intent would be that the anonymous letter and polygraph would have been enough to tank the nomination, and when they saw that wasn't going to work she was forced out of her hopeful anonymity.
re: Women to protest Kavanaugh tonight at Supreme Court
Posted by 3rdShore on 9/17/18 at 2:56 pm to DawgfaninCa
When you protest everything, you protest nothing.
That op-ed reads as almost pure fiction. It's filled with "facts" that simply aren't accurate.
Are people really that deluded that they can't see the truth?
Are people really that deluded that they can't see the truth?
re: Best 8-12 Cup Automatic Drip Coffee Maker
Posted by 3rdShore on 6/1/18 at 6:39 am to SirSaintly
I’ve been very pleased with our Bonavita. Simple, effective and consistent.
Keep an ear out for the frequent use of “modern” as this wedding is being branded as a MODERN wedding.
SPY /spai/
noun, plural spies.
a person who secretly collects and reports information about the activities of another country or organization
noun, plural spies.
a person who secretly collects and reports information about the activities of another country or organization
I fully understand that it is audio of the word laurel. The part you quoted of my post (i.e. your response) completely ignores the point being made.
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Because some people hear the word Laurel as yanny.
I can only assume you’re trolling at this point.
There is no “right or wrong” in this scenario, especially since it begins from a digital representation of sound. I think the best comparison isn’t a colorblind vs not thing but similar to how “Magic Eye” works. You can alter your brains interpretation of the information available to either see or not see the 3D effect. When you’re not seeing it in “3D” you’re not seeing the photo wrong, but different...multiple perceptions of the same thing.
Being that a lot of people are able to hear it both ways it’s a difference of how your brain perceives the information available.
Being that a lot of people are able to hear it both ways it’s a difference of how your brain perceives the information available.
re: It was Laurel the whole time
Posted by 3rdShore on 5/17/18 at 6:44 am to JohnnyKilroy
It’s not just the speakers you listen to it on and it’s not just a different recording of “yanny” out there. It is the way your brain is processing the sensory information.
First listen for me was on speakers in my office with two others. They both heard laurel, I heard yanny. They thought I was crazy. Upon repeated attempts I could not hear laurel, as much as I tried. Listened again at home on my phone still hearing yanny. I watched the “scientific” audio break down video and got to where I heard laurel. I went back to the original clip I listened to and heard laurel repeatedly and could no longer hear yanny. This morning listened again and got yanny.
Same thing with the dress....saw it both ways, and couldn’t flip back and forth consciously.
First listen for me was on speakers in my office with two others. They both heard laurel, I heard yanny. They thought I was crazy. Upon repeated attempts I could not hear laurel, as much as I tried. Listened again at home on my phone still hearing yanny. I watched the “scientific” audio break down video and got to where I heard laurel. I went back to the original clip I listened to and heard laurel repeatedly and could no longer hear yanny. This morning listened again and got yanny.
Same thing with the dress....saw it both ways, and couldn’t flip back and forth consciously.
I’ll second the Jamis Coda Comp. I came across them in my similar search for a good hybrid, and it has served me well.
re: Massive patriot defends 2nd amendment at Greensboro NC city council meeting
Posted by 3rdShore on 4/5/18 at 8:54 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Great and passionate speech.
When people of his mindset are no longer the (silent) majority is when the 2nd amendment, the fabric of the constitution and our other American liberties will truly be tested.
When people of his mindset are no longer the (silent) majority is when the 2nd amendment, the fabric of the constitution and our other American liberties will truly be tested.
This still is from before they had him on the hood and before they tased him. I assume it’s Lake that has Sterling’s right hand gripped, and that Salamoni is closer to the bottom of the frame.
It appears Sterling may have been trying to reach across at this point to where his gun would’ve been and Salamoni would’ve had the best view for this.
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