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re: Baton Rouge streetcar thread
Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:07 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:07 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
No but I work with CSRS and they are. A church was recently at Planning Commission because they were being moved due to the Nicholson widening.
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:07 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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Are you involved in some kind of way with this project?
Check the Green light plan website.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:10 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
A lot of the ghetto around the Central wastewater treatment plant has already been purchased by developers.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:12 pm to torrey225
Wasn't doubting you, was just curious if you had any other info. I'm very interested in this project.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:20 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:43 pm to Deactived
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This would be way more useful in a number of ways. The people in that area would use it. It could lead to other places getting the rail because the initial rail wasnt a failure.
That's my thought, and it would also address some of the concerns in the Gov St "diet" plan.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:53 pm to Bmath
I guess the thought is that putting the streetcar connecting downtown and LSU helps to eliminate the "parking gap". There's not enough parking near LSU to accomidate big game traffic, so having a reliable, high capacity streetcar connecting the downtown parking garages to campus fixes that issue. Also, it makes it far easier for downtown and capitol employees to take the streetcar down to LSU Basketball and Baseball games after work without needing to move their cars.
The other reason is that the corridor along which the nicholson one is running contains the largest population in the city which doesn't own a car, who therefor would benefit the most from mass transit. Also, there's a shite ton of vacant land there which has been bought up by developers to make it into a viable commercial/residential corridor.
Mid city, however, is the logical next step.
The other reason is that the corridor along which the nicholson one is running contains the largest population in the city which doesn't own a car, who therefor would benefit the most from mass transit. Also, there's a shite ton of vacant land there which has been bought up by developers to make it into a viable commercial/residential corridor.
Mid city, however, is the logical next step.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:00 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
Cities all over the world do have buses.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:06 pm to torrey225
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Each of these items come from different departments and budgets. Money is not pooled like you think it is. WTF does Baton Rouge have to do with widening state interstate?
All of the listed projects are in EBR parish and we will either have to fund them ourselves or beg the state of the Feds to fund them.
Certainly most of the new projects will require local tax dollars to maintain and run them.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:06 pm to kingbob
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There's not enough parking near LSU to accomidate big game traffic, so having a reliable, high capacity streetcar connecting the downtown parking garages to campus fixes that issue.
You cant build something like this to fix a 4 day a year problem. Im saying 4 days because the parking situation is not bad for half of the games. Getting to the games is easy enough, its the leaving that is tough and this light rail wont make a dent. There just isnt an easy way to get 100K+ people out of a stadium area. Transporting people to downtown to only get in a new clusterfrick isnt very viable.
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Also, it makes it far easier for downtown and capitol employees to take the streetcar down to LSU Basketball and Baseball games after work without needing to move their cars.
There is no problem with parking for baseball and basketball games. 10K is nothing compared to 125K with football games. A downtown worker can just drive and park in a lot without the waiting on a train before and after the game.
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The other reason is that the corridor along which the nicholson one is running contains the largest population in the city which doesn't own a car, who therefor would benefit the most from mass transit.
is this a fact or are we just throwing this out there?
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Also, there's a shite ton of vacant land there which has been bought up by developers to make it into a viable commercial/residential corridor.
Seems like all the land that has been purchased and developed is dominated by residential condos.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:10 pm to torrey225
Green light plan is the best plan EBR has ever had.
The Nicholdon project at Lee is thirty years late, but still vital.
The Nicholdon project at Lee is thirty years late, but still vital.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:11 pm to Deactived
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is this a fact or are we just throwing this out there?
Fact. A large percentage of LSU students don't own cars. A lot of the poor in Old South Baton Rouge don't own cars. Also, a lot of the people moving downtown don't have cars.
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Seems like all the land that has been purchased and developed is dominated by residential condos.
Some of the things already finished have been condos, but the Water Campus is mostly commercial office space. The big River District is Mixed Use with a healthy amount of retail, what LSU is putting in to replace the old married student housing is mixed use, and the new development across from the state police thing is all retail.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:18 pm to doubleb
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All of the listed projects are in EBR parish and we will either have to fund them ourselves or beg the state of the Feds to fund them.
Certainly most of the new projects will require local tax dollars to maintain and run them.
I guarantee that not $1 of EBR tax money will ever be spent on an interstate project. This is the state's road. We don't touch it. EBR is currently in the process of taking over a number of state highways in EBR. State knows it so they are not even repairing the roads anymore. These roads are going to get TERRIBLE in the meantime.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:21 pm to torrey225
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EBR is currently in the process of taking over a number of state highways in EBR. State knows it so they are not even repairing the roads anymore. These roads are going to get TERRIBLE in the meantime.
See Government Street.
Actually, all state roads are shite right now because the highway fund is being raided by so many other bodies and what's left gets wasted by DOTD. Only a very small percentage (less than 10) of what is supposed to go to highways ever is actually used to maintain or improve state roads.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:21 pm to kingbob
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Fact. A large percentage of LSU students don't own cars
I refuse to believe this.
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A lot of the poor in Old South Baton Rouge don't own cars
I believe this.
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Also, a lot of the people moving downtown don't have cars.
I dont believe this either.
The 2nd part is just kind of a given but you just made up the other two parts.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:24 pm to Deactived
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The 2nd part is just kind of a given but you just made up the other two parts.
False. Almost none of the international students own cars. A lot of the out of state students don't own cars. It's a lot more than you realize. Not every 19 year-old has enough money to buy their own car, nor does every kid have parents who will give them one to drive.
Also, the idea that the second poorest neighborhood in Baton Rouge has no one without vehicles is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:29 pm to torrey225
Exactly why I said most of the projects listed instead of saying all the projects listed.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:30 pm to kingbob
We have buses now
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:34 pm to kingbob
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False. Almost none of the international students own cars
Thats 2% of the student body.
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A lot of the out of state students don't own cars.
18% come from out of state and plenty of these have cars. Plenty of parents arent just going to send their kids to an out of state college without a car. If they dont have the money for a car I doubt theyre rushing to send them out of state to an average college like LSU. Might as well stay in state and go to a local college.
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It's a lot more than you realize
It also might be a lot less than you think.
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Also, the idea that the second poorest neighborhood in Baton Rouge has no one without vehicles is ridiculous.
I agreed that the south baton rouge area(the ghetto) dont have cars.
The LSU student body and people able to move downtown have cars. Thats what I didnt agree with
Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:34 pm to doubleb
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We have buses noe
The problem is street traffic. Busses are stuck on the same streets in the same lanes as cars. The only difference between driving a car and riding on a bus is that the bus stops every goddamn block clogging up traffic.
The streetcar is superior to both because it does not necessarily occupy the same lanes of traffic as the cars and busses. While there is congestion on the streets, the light rail remains consistent.
The only thing better about busses is that they are cheaper in the short term. It is a relatively inexpensive proposition to start a bus line. All you really need to do is buy busses. A streetcar line requires far more infrastructure. However, streetcar lines, when run effectively, can be much cheaper to run and maintain.
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