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re: Baton Rouge private schools vs. public schools
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:02 am to Redfish2010
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:02 am to Redfish2010
quote:I did this at Belaire in '96. This just got implemented?
The system recently implemented a plan where Seniors can actually take accredited college courses as well
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:06 am to Redfish2010
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The system recently implemented a plan where Seniors can actually take accredited college courses as well
Redfish, in this plan, if a CHS senior's grades/credits are in proper standing, they can actually enter Collegfe as a Soph................
We are estatic over our Superintendent. He has great vision and has the freedom to implement non-standard approaches to education!!!!!
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:08 am to Bengal
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I did this at Belaire in '96. This just got implemented?
Central is in its 1st year as its own system.
The BR Public system had some great ideas in that regard, but failed miserably at choosing what schools to try and lure students to.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:11 am to CanShakersDecayedNut
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sorry supah, you're wrong here. St Jude is right at 32 and I believe St George is about the same. It is one of the drawbacks of the Private Schools.
However, that is 32 kids who are usually well behaved and focused, so it works out a little better.
unless you can support this I dont think this is accurate
class = number of kids per teacher (32:1, 64:2, 96:3)
sections = number of teachers per grade (1:32, 2:64, 3:96)
there are allowances in a school charter for some specific classes to be over the size limit due to a large number of children of alumni and siblings enrolled, but to have a catholic elementary/middle school class with 32 kids in it is simply unheard of. This would mean that there are classes of 64 (2 sections) or 96 (3 sections) kids total in each grade K-8th.
You can not just "grow" a school section exponentially with no repercussions, there are school charters that have written max allowable student:teacher ratios, there are state education class size requirements and maximums on student:teacher ratios and required green space square footage for the student enrollment. A catholic school administrator can not just decide to go from 50 students in a grade to 64-96 kids without jumping through some major hoops to do so.
Typically the class size limit in a catholic school is 25:1 and the sections are 2:50 or 3:75. It is not uncommon to have a class of 26:1 or 27:1, but 32:1 is bad business.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:12 am to supatigah
Is there anyone in this thread who's actually attended school in the past 15 years?
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:12 am to TreeDawg
quote:Good move.
Central is in its 1st year as its own system.
quote:Belaire had a medical program and a magnet program where students from outside the district good attend. This helped "recruit" better students to an otherwise poor area. This was removed the year after I graduated and moved to Glen Oaks to "desegregate" that school. Epic failure. Belaire is now about 90 - 95% one race, as is Glen Oaks.
The BR Public system had some great ideas in that regard, but failed miserably at choosing what schools to try and lure students to.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:13 am to supatigah
25:1 class size of a catholic school 
try at least 30
try at least 30
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:13 am to swamie
quote::raiseshand:
Is there anyone in this thread who's actually attended school in the past 15 years?
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:14 am to swamie
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Is there anyone in this thread who's actually attended school in the past 15 years?
graduated hs in 06
sophomore at lsu now
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:15 am to TreeDawg
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Redfish, in this plan, if a CHS senior's grades/credits are in proper standing, they can actually enter Collegfe as a Soph................
wow. just frickin wow.
I'm jealous. Sounds like central is in good hands. I wish our school board would have arranged some things like that for us.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:18 am to Redfish2010
Under Belaire's former medical program, students could enter nursing school with the majority of the first year's curriculum completed. It was basically a feeder school for Southeastern's nursing program, which is very highly rated.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:19 am to supatigah
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the biggest difference is environment but it may not be in the way that some of you might think. Some feel like the difference is race or social class based divides but it really has more to do with the individual kids and their attitude about school.
In a public school, they herd the kids all day in large classes (30+) and some kids really don't want to be there. So they act out, which disrupts the rest the of the class. This can go on and on until the kid has the option of dropping out. when they are acting out because they don't want to be there, there really is no where for them to go unless they are severely disrupting the class. then they can be sent to an alternative school, but even those aren't permanent solutions.
In a private school, when the administration reaches their tolerance limit for a kid's behavior, he/she is asked to leave the school. There is no herding of problem kids in private school because they dont have to stand for it and their charters are set up with class size limits. When parents are involved in the school, the disruptive kids are on borrowed time because paying tuition means a certain level of expectations that will prompt a parent to go to the administration if there is a problem.
This difference in public and private can't be solely attributed to race or money, it is much deeper than that. The successful public school systems are run like a business on the private school model. The discipline level in the successful public schools are based on what the adults (parents/teachers/admins) will allow to happen until they reach their bad behavior tolerance threshold with individual kids. Not the school as a whole.
You simply cant rule the entire herd but you can rule the problem cows and keep the herd in line.
I completely agree.
My son went to Episcopal in BR and after moving to a town that is 99% white and relatively affluent, and sending him to the "very good" public schools, I can tell you that EHS is worth every single penny. If there was a private high school here, I'd send him.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:19 am to Redfish2010
Gotta go to work, but just remember, my school is better than your school 
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:20 am to supatigah
what kind of support would you like? Will the numbers per grade at St Jude be sufficient or do you need names too? The book is sitting right here next to me. The class size limit is 32.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:20 am to guttata
you realize we are talking about elementary and middle schools right? Catholic High Schools are set up differently
I am on the School Board at a Catholic School, I am intimately familiar with how it all works. I am not telling you what I "heard" I am sharing with you what I know.
If my kid was in a elementary or middle school class at a Catholic School and there were 31 other kids in it I would be pissed off.
I am on the School Board at a Catholic School, I am intimately familiar with how it all works. I am not telling you what I "heard" I am sharing with you what I know.
If my kid was in a elementary or middle school class at a Catholic School and there were 31 other kids in it I would be pissed off.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:20 am to STBTigerr
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always hear that Ascension has a great public school system, but I was just wondering how they rate that. I knew at least a dozen people that went to public high school in Ascension and they all had close to 4.0's but when they got to college it didn't work out too well. I can count 5 that dropped out and the others just had to work really hard to make ok grades. I just don't know what they use to validate the public school system.
My husband and I and our 3 three children are products of Ascension Parish schools. I am the only one without a degree (my choice). Our daughter was at a Catholic school from K-2nd. We decided to pull her out and go back to Ascension because the cliques were so bad already in second grade in Catholic school. No regrets. 2 of our children got multiple scholarships at SLU and LSU. Our oldest has her Masters. My daughter now teaches in Ascension.
However, it isn't just the school that makes a successful student, their home life plays a significant role in their success also.
This post was edited on 3/4/08 at 9:23 am
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:21 am to Bengal
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Under Belaire's former medical program, students could enter nursing school with the majority of the first year's curriculum completed. It was basically a feeder school for Southeastern's nursing program, which is very highly rated.
That sounds good too. At dshs we didn't have programs like this. If I was a parent I would look for schools who would give my child this kind of opportunity. And I know a bunch of people who went to SLU for nursing.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:21 am to supatigah
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I am on the School Board at a Catholic School
for really?Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:22 am to Bengal
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Gotta go to work, but just remember, my school is better than your school
frickin denham springs
o crap i gotta get in the shower. i have class at 10 30
Posted on 3/4/08 at 9:22 am to supatigah
where do you live? I think that number is fairly standard for BR. However, I will say there is a teacher and a teacher's aide in ever class, so obviously that helps the ratio too.
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