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re: Baton Rouge-based firm bids $1.25 bln for Shell's idled Convent refinery

Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:53 am to
Posted by Ebrow21
Lutcher, La.
Member since Apr 2015
58 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:53 am to
You mean the former BR pro temp Mayor who also drove school buses, was a realtor and a pilot?

I had high hopes reading the article title....
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11878 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:07 am to
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I'm still surprised that Placid and some of the other boutique refineries are open (and flourishing) while Shell had to shut down a full sized operation with 1,100 employees.

Placid is privately owned. So they don’t have the overhead/bloat that Shell carries around, and they don’t have the red tape either.

It’s similar to what happened on the continental shelf in the GOM - as the majors’ shelf assets aged, the smaller “independents” were able to pick them up and operate profitably for years.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60801 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:38 am to
I would have thought Motiva would have made a move for Convent by now.
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
1967 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:39 am to
Hope these ole boys from Baker, LA have some deep pockets or heavy hitter foreign investors. This is not a mom and pop deal and hope they didn’t come out with a press real ease to get everyone down that ways dick hard just to end up letting them down
Posted by Lord_Ford
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
4126 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:58 am to
Truck nuts [On]
Posted by corym52
Member since Jul 2007
721 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 12:20 pm to
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I would have thought Motiva would have made a move for Convent by now.


I’m not 100% but it being a sweet crude only refinery seriously handicaps profits and potential. Lots of upgrades need to be done to make it a competitive site to Garyville and Norco.
Posted by GS3
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
349 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:07 pm to
Yeah that’s incorrect. It waa upgraded in the early 80’s and has been running sour crude ever since.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39606 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:10 pm to
That seems extremely low. They probably make that running in a month
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60801 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Yeah that’s incorrect. It waa upgraded in the early 80’s and has been running sour crude ever since.


The Convent refinery does have a heavy crude unit that is a bitch to run and maintain due to high pressure and heat requirements.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32634 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:30 pm to
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That seems extremely low. They probably make that running in a month



Not since December.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28275 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:34 pm to
Isn't Stephen Johnson a lobbyist?
Posted by GS3
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
349 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:42 pm to
Yep, that resid is a beast.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74481 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 3:25 pm to
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The refineries they want are the fully integrated refinery/chemical plants like Norco and Deer Park.


Man, this statement didn't age well.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
16414 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 3:31 pm to
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Placid is privately owned.


And their main client is the government.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39908 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:03 pm to
The deer park refinery sale really surprised me. But reading about it, it was an unsolicited offer from their 50/50 partner and they still have the entire chemical plant
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25016 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:43 am to
Sounds like Shell is turning down the offer.

quote:

A group that says it was rebuffed in an effort to buy Royal Dutch Shell's Convent oil refinery for $1 billion says it is determined to buy and also build a new refinery to process lighter oil piped in from the Bakken shale play in the North Dakota area.

"We were trying to take advantage of existing infrastructure at the Convent refinery that was earlier indicated to be for sale," said Coleman Ferguson, who represents proposed buyer American Clean Energy Refining LLC and had worked at Texaco for more than three decades and is familiar with the Convent refinery. "If they (Shell) don't want to sell the refinery for some reason we're still interested in the docks, tanks and infrastructure. We are going to build a refinery we've just got to find a site," he said.

The startup company looks to build a second stand-alone refinery for $2 billion, which was planned to be on the Shell site, with capacity of 300,000 barrels of "frack oil" each day, he said.

Shell did not directly comment on the group's effort to buy the Convent refinery.

"Despite an extensive marketing process, a viable buyer was not identified," said Curtis Smith, spokesperson for Shell in an email.

"In the marketing process of the Convent Refinery and all other assets globally, we consider a wide range of qualifications and factors, including a prospective buyer’s ability and experience to safely operate a complex manufacturing site."

The company had begun marketing its refinery in July 2020, but moved into shutdown mode several months later, laying off hundreds of workers and hundreds more contractors. Shell said it has found positions within the company for about 60% of the Convent workers.

Now the refinery is in the "final steps of the preservation process and will soon be a fully idled and preserved asset," according to Shell. The company continues to "actively evaluate" its options, including "potential future marketing efforts."

Ferguson said he was familiar with the Convent refinery decades ago when it was controlled by Texaco, a company where he worked his way up to a vice president in the Beaumont, Texas, area. He also is familiar with the Port Arthur refinery, previously under the Texaco umbrella. American Clean Energy Refining LLC negotiated with Shell for more than a year and at one point bid on three of the oil giant's stand-alone refineries but none of those bids were successful, Ferguson said.

"Our strategy was to be an export refinery for frack oil," he said. "If you look at frack oil, … it's green and comes from a strata eons ago and had premium value in its day but has to be blended into (gasoline)."

The company estimates there is roughly 5 million barrels of the light frack oil available in the U.S., with customers interested in buying it but lacking refinery capacity.

"We tried to do serious negotiations with them," Ferguson said, "but they were taking every action to shut it down. It makes no normal economic sense but there's pressure on companies to reduce their carbon (footprint). It's a new angle and it's real," he said.

The group's refinery plans have been in the works for the past decade as the global refinery market has consolidated but demand for some fuels remained steady and in some cases increased.

The group says it has the backing of an undisclosed fund of private equity investors through a financial business that controls "trillions of dollars" and does business on a global scale already.

"We're willing to put our money where our mouth is," said Steve Erdahl, co-founder of the business. "We're not looking for any tax cuts."

The group has met with St. James Parish officials, which the local government did confirm.

"Everybody knows somebody who works here," said Pete Dufresne, parish president of St. James. "We would love to see the plant back in operation."


LINK

I pasted the entire article so you don't have to give John George's biased as hell, anti-petrochem industry publication any clicks.

But due to proper etiquette of siting sources, the link is also provided. Just the kind of clean cut, integrity-based dude/dudette I am.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:46 am to
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Sounds like Shell is turning down the offer.



frick them.

Reopen it or sell it. I know it's Shell's property, but it's also an employment asset to the community and a potential energy supplier to nation.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:47 am to
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quote:
The refineries they want are the fully integrated refinery/chemical plants like Norco and Deer Park.


Man, this statement didn't age well.


No kidding. And I'm still surprised by the news yesterday.
Posted by GEAUX DJ!
Plaquemine
Member since Jan 2005
1970 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:58 am to
Heard this morning in a meeting they were turned down in the initial talks of selling Convent. Now they have gone public about wanting to buy it and trying to bully Shell into selling to them. Shell doesn't believe they have the money to buy it and they aren't going to sell it to a company they don't think can safely run it.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:00 am to
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Shell doesn't believe they have the money to buy it and they aren't going to sell it to a company they don't think can safely run it.



This has nothing to do with Shell's concern for safety.

They need to piss or get off the pot. If they don't want to be in the refining business, then don't be. But don't pretend you are doing anyone a favor by keeping a facility that could potentially employ 1,000 people out of operation.
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 11:03 am
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