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re: Bad Bunny will be the Super Bowl Halftime Show
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:30 am to Saint Alfonzo
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:30 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Usher, Rihanna, The Weeknd, Shakira and Jennifer Lopez are not rap/hip hop.
2026: Bad Bunny
2025: Kendrick Lamar with special guest SZA
2024: Usher with special guests Alicia Keys, Jermaine Dupri, H.E.R., will.i.am, Lil Jon, Ludacris
2023: Rihanna
2022: Eminem, Dr. Dre. Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar and Mary J. Blige
2021: The Weeknd
Six years does not include Jennifer Lopez and Shakira.
And Usher, Rihanna and The Weeknd are definitely in the rap/hip hop genre. The idea that they are not is Ludacris.
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:45 am to QJenk
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Rihanna, Usher, The Weekend, Shakira, and Maroon 5 are definitely not Hip Hop.
Shakira and Maroon 5 are not in the six years window that I referenced.
Rihanna, Usher, The Weekend are definitely hip hop/rap. To consider them not in this realm is to deny reality, and dial down to some uber specific genre definitions.
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2024: Usher with special guests Alicia Keys, Jermaine Dupri, H.E.R., will.i.am, Lil Jon, Ludacris
You think this is not a rap/hip hop line-up?
Rihanna has recorded with Jay Z, Kendrick Lamar, Kanye, and has rapped herself on multiple songs.
The Weeknd is in a grey area, but one of his biggest hits is a collab with rapper Playboi Carti. He has had other songs with a dozen different rappers.
To say that any of these artists are definitely not rap or hip hop defies logic.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 8:46 am
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:52 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Rihanna, Usher, The Weekend are definitely hip hop/rap. To consider them not in this realm is to deny reality, and dial down to some uber specific genre definitions.
They literally aren't Hip Hop. Usher is an R&B artist. The Weeknd is Alternative R&B/Pop. Rihanna is one of the biggest Pop artists of the 2000/2010s. I dare you to name one song of hers where she rapped.
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2024: Usher with special guests Alicia Keys, Jermaine Dupri, H.E.R., will.i.am, Lil Jon, Ludacris
You think this is not a rap/hip hop line-up?
It's not. Lil Jon and Ludacris are the only rappers from the list.
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The Weeknd is in a grey area, but one of his biggest hits is a collab with rapper Playboi Carti. He has had other songs with a dozen different rappers.
Artists of different genres collaborate all the time. Do you consider Taylor Swift or Katy Perry a rapper? After all, she's collaborated with rappers as well.
Hint: Just because they're black doesn't mean they make rap music.
Hint 2: Just because you don't care for the genre of music, doesn't make it rap.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 8:56 am
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:58 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Six years does not include Jennifer Lopez and Shakira.
Uh, yes it does.
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And Usher, Rihanna and The Weeknd are definitely in the rap/hip hop genre. The idea that they are not is Ludacris.
Nope, wrong again. Usher is r&b, Rihanna is dance pop/r&b, The Weeknd is r&b, soul, and electronic music. None of them are rappers.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:58 am to QJenk
I'd consider will.i.am and Dupri rappers too, but I agree that it doesn't make that entire show a hip hop performance. Usher, Alicia Keys, and H.E.R. are solidly R&B and pop. I just looked it up and more than half of the set was R&B ballads.
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"My Way" (intro)
"Caught Up"
"U Don't Have to Call" (with elements of "Superstar")
"Love in This Club"
"If I Ain't Got You" (with Alicia Keys)
"My Boo" (with Alicia Keys)
"Confessions Part II" (with introduction by Jermaine Dupri and elements of "Nice & Slow")
"Burn"
"U Got It Bad" (with H.E.R. and elements of "Bad Girl")
"OMG" (with will.i.am and elements of "Can You Feel It and Jumpman"[26])
"Turn Down for What" (Lil Jon)
"Yeah!" (with Lil Jon, Ludacris and elements of "Freek-a-Leek" and "Get Low")
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:00 am
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:01 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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And Usher, Rihanna and The Weeknd are definitely in the rap/hip hop genre.
No they’re not. They may collaborate with hip hop artists on occasion, but that’s like saying that Tim McGraw is a hip hop artist because he collaborated with Nelly on a song. This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:02 am
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:05 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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The Weeknd is in a grey area, but one of his biggest hits is a collab with rapper Playboi Carti. He has had other songs with a dozen different rappers.
To say that any of these artists are definitely not rap or hip hop defies logic.
I might be the biggest fan of The Weeknd on this board. He's not a rapper.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:05 am to QJenk
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Hint: Just because they're black doesn't mean they make rap music.
Hint 2: Just because you don't care for the genre of music, doesn't make it rap.
Stop projecting.
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It's not. Lil Jon and Ludacris are the only rappers from the list.
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AI Overview
will.i.am - Songs, Movies & Albums
Yes, will.i.am is a well-known American rapper, primarily recognized for being the founding and lead member of the Grammy Award-winning hip-hop group The Black Eyed Peas. He began his music career as an underground hip-hop artist and later became known for his pop-rap style with The Black Eyed Peas
I stated that The Weeknd is in a gray area, but he is heavily in the rap/hip hop orbit. To compare him to artists that do a random rap collab is dishonest. He has had more than a dozen rap collabs, including some of his biggest hits. He is touring currently with a rapper, Playboi Carti.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:06 am to Saint Alfonzo
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I might be the biggest fan of The Weeknd on this board. He's not a rapper.
I never said he was.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:11 am to Winston Cup
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His McDonald’s meal sucked
frickin lol
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:12 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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I never said he was.
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I stated that The Weeknd is in a gray area, but he is heavily in the rap/hip hop orbit. To compare him to artists that do a random rap collab is dishonest. He has had more than a dozen rap collabs, including some of his biggest hits. He is touring currently with a rapper, Playboi Carti.
Just because some rappers have done features and collabs with The Weeknd doesn't make him a rapper. The person he's collaborated with the most is Lana Del Rey.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:24 am to Saint Alfonzo
I said he was in the "rap/hip hop orbit" which he is.
Don't get your feelings hurt over your favorite artist. He tours with a rapper as an opening act currently (Playboi Carti), and has previously toured with Travis Scott and Kendrick Lamar. He's had collabs with over a dozen rappers. To say he's not in that realm is dishonest. Sure, he's not purely a rap or hip hop act. But he courts that audience heavily.
Don't get your feelings hurt over your favorite artist. He tours with a rapper as an opening act currently (Playboi Carti), and has previously toured with Travis Scott and Kendrick Lamar. He's had collabs with over a dozen rappers. To say he's not in that realm is dishonest. Sure, he's not purely a rap or hip hop act. But he courts that audience heavily.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:24 am to Ingeniero
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He's only got a hundred billion streams on Spotify, so naturally the OT boomers will be here saying "WHO?! NEVER HEARD OF HIM!"
Not a boomer
Have heard of Bad Bunny
Until yesterday I thought it was a hoodrat female, not a guy
While I'm sure a lot of it is age, I imagine it's increasingly common for people not to be familiar with major acts outside of their preferences. Nobody watches network late night/morning/etc. shows anymore, most of us don't listen to radio, etc. Easier than ever to have only passing familiarity with a dude like this.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:25 am to Pettifogger
Appealing to their base.
I am not their base.
I am not their base.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:26 am to Pettifogger
I'm not sure why I'm bitching in this thread. I haven't watched more than 3 NFL games in the last two seasons. I'm obviously not their target audience.
They've moved on, I've moved on.
They've moved on, I've moved on.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:30 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Stop projecting
I'm not projecting. You're the one who called Rihanna, Usher, and The Weeknd rappers
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I stated that The Weeknd is in a gray area, but he is heavily in the rap/hip hop orbit.
Again, collabing with a Hip Hop artist doesn't make one a Hip Hop artist.
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He is touring currently with a rapper, Playboi Carti.
Yes, this is probably because they feel they have a big enough overlap of fans in order to make an entertaining show out of it. That doesn't change the fact that the Weeknd is a singer. Playboi Carti probably could not hold a tune. They don't make the same music.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:30 am to Sunnyvale
I'm not even sure that's true. There is some segment this appeals to.
But NFL knows that half the people mad about it will watch in order to trash talk it later and be a part of the national conversation about it, which fulfills their objective.
The goal isn't to put good content in that slot. Or if it is, it's definitely not a priority.
But NFL knows that half the people mad about it will watch in order to trash talk it later and be a part of the national conversation about it, which fulfills their objective.
The goal isn't to put good content in that slot. Or if it is, it's definitely not a priority.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:32 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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I'm obviously not their target audience.
They already have you as their audience though (general “You”, not you specifically). They’ve been pushing for a larger share of the Latino and Latin American audience the past few years, and this is just part of that marketing push.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:33 am
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:32 am to QJenk
Denying that Hip/Rap and R&B are in the same orbit is pretty wild.
I think that is the point he is trying to make, they are going with adjacent acts that Jay Z is clearly pushing, and he's increasingly pushing that envelope going from very mainstream pop acts to acts like Kendrick Lamar and Bad Bunny
Jay Z needs to be stopped.
I think that is the point he is trying to make, they are going with adjacent acts that Jay Z is clearly pushing, and he's increasingly pushing that envelope going from very mainstream pop acts to acts like Kendrick Lamar and Bad Bunny
Jay Z needs to be stopped.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:34 am to Pettifogger
I think you're mostly right about the "get people talking" factor, but Bad Bunny is also the 2nd most streamed artist in the world behind Taylor Swift, and was #1 for a few years in a row. I think getting him was a no-brainer for the NFL, especially as they're trying to tap in to more demographics. Same reason they're playing games all over the world the last few seasons. They want eyes on the product and they don't care if they're Puerto Rican eyes, Irish eyes, or German eyes.
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