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re: B-17 collides/crashes with another plane at Dallas air show.

Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7249 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Well that’s a crappy way to die


"We live in fame, or go down in flames, nothing can stop the Army Air Corps"
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7249 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Well that’s a crappy way to die


"We live in fame, or go down in flames, nothing can stop the Army Air Corps"
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19181 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:32 pm to
Even if he saw the other plane, he was probably pulling hard as he could into the turn and thinking he was going to evade up until he realized it was too late. It happened so fast he wouldn't have had much more of a chance than to start the bank and then realize "oh shite" and it was too late.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
27054 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:33 pm to
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P-63 King Cobra


It is always a GDCK.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24878 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:33 pm to
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He's clearly over 45° which means all he can see is the ground to his left and sky everywhere else. He might have never even seen the bomber.


It’s possible.
Posted by Ron Popeil
Mississippi coast
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:33 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 5:42 pm
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:36 pm to
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How could the smaller plane not see the bomber? Horrible.


Looks like the 63 was banking and at that angle there’s no way to see anything underneath and there are no fancy electronics to warn of a collision like modern aircraft.

One of the pilots probably errored on what altitude they should be at as that maneuver is pretty common at air shows with the bomber flying a steady with the smaller fighters banking above.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24878 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:38 pm to
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he was probably pulling hard as he could into the turn and thinking he was going to evade


Certainly didn’t look like a hard turn. Nor any evasive maneuvers.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46914 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:42 pm to
Facebook vid

Different view of the accident
Posted by Ron Popeil
Mississippi coast
Member since Nov 2018
804 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 5:43 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
52554 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Certainly didn’t look like a hard turn. Nor any evasive maneuvers.



Yeah. I'd think that plane could turn tighter than that if need be. Could certainly gain altitude. Just sawed the B17 in two.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7760 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:58 pm to
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Now at 15,000 feet, I would think differently.

Certainly gives our generation a real life perspective of the sacrifices a heck of a lot of young men made over Europe in 1944.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1090 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:02 pm to
What makes you say that?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
52554 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:02 pm to
A pic of the kamikazi;

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
90892 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:02 pm to
There are barely a half-dozen or so B-17s still flying of less than 50 complete aircraft still in existence. I saw one flying in St. Louis about 10 years ago.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:05 pm to
Who was flying that single prop what a dumbass
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
66054 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:06 pm to
His name was Charred Broiled.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1090 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:06 pm to
You have no way of knowing if it was his fault or not.

Might have been but you certainly haven’t the slightest clue.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:15 pm to
Go piss up a flag pole overtaking a heavy aircraft in uncontrolled space ok Francis
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
66054 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:16 pm to
Yeah, I’m going to Hell.
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