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Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:18 pm to Bard
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I’d rather a loop
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Too much sense = not happening
This is really all that it comes down to.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:22 pm to goofball
That’s a lot of time, expense, and impact to traffic just to add one lane in each direction. I have always said that you might as well do more than that and get the bang for the buck. You have a contractor and traffic is already impacted so go one step beyond. The additional cost won’t be as bad due to economy of scale,
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:25 pm to gumbeaux
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That’s a lot of time, expense, and impact to traffic just to add one lane in each direction. I have always said that you might as well do more than that and get the bang for the buck. You have a contractor and traffic is already impacted so go one step beyond. The additional cost won’t be as bad due to economy of scale,
It’s not just about adding a lane in each direction, the existing roadway is due to be replaced. It’s over fifty years old. It’s not in the best shape and the design is outdated.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:31 pm to dewster
Included in Greenlight Plan and MovEBR:
Hooper Road improvement is also in.
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- widened and improved Nicholson all the way into Gonzales (route to industrial and residential areas in AP
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- widened and improved Airline Highway with overpasses over the rail crossings (route to West Baton Rouge and Ascension)
Hooper Road improvement is also in.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:34 pm to goofball
6 year project you say?
How does that compare to the length of time it took to complete the Baton Rouge Loop project?
How does that compare to the length of time it took to complete the Baton Rouge Loop project?
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:40 pm to td1
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is adding one lane in each direction enough?
As part of my daily Birmingham commute, I drive the 10-mile stretch of I-65 from Hoover to Pelham, AL, which has now been fully converted to eight lanes.
Did going from 6 to 8 lanes help? Maybe... most days I'm being passed while going 78-79 MPH. Sure, there is now more room to weave around slowpokes in the two left lanes. But that was also helped by ALDOT making most of the exit & onramp lanes at least two lanes wide -- and they are all right-side exits.
Not sure if Baton Rouge is ready for all the land-grab needed to make super-wide exit & on-ramp lanes, not to speak of moving the westbound exit to the MRB over to the right side (with a flyover).
Oh, and add an emergency lane on either side for an almost 18-lane-wide peak impact to the area.
Build. The. Loop.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:48 pm to DoctorTechnical
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As part of my daily Birmingham commute, I drive the 10-mile stretch of I-65 from Hoover to Pelham, AL, which has now been fully converted to eight lanes.
Did going from 6 to 8 lanes help? Maybe... most days I'm being passed while going 78-79 MPH. Sure, there is now more room to weave around slowpokes in the two left lanes. But that was also helped by ALDOT making most of the exit & onramp lanes at least two lanes wide -- and they are all right-side exits.
Not sure if Baton Rouge is ready for all the land-grab needed to make super-wide exit & on-ramp lanes, not to speak of moving the westbound exit to the MRB over to the right side (with a flyover).
Oh, and add an emergency lane on either side for an almost 18-lane-wide peak impact to the area.
Build. The. Loop.
I agree, the lanes aren't really the problem. I mean more lanes would help but if the road is in need of repair/replacing, then build the alternative route/long term solution plan (loop/bypass/whatever) and then tend to that strip of I-10. I must say going through Br a good bit as pass through traffic myself, the added lane has helped but It still feels bumper to bumper and sketchy in the area between highland and prarieville, and as mentioned above it just gives people a lane to bob and weave with no blinker.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:55 pm to goofball
It will suck but thank you el Presidente
Posted on 12/12/20 at 2:10 pm to dewster
What was the project about 5/10 years ago that was connecting Central to I-12 or something? I thought it was around O'niel and Denham, in between those two somewhere. Did that help at all, I never have had to take it.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 2:38 pm to BorrisMart
Central Throughway. Improved surface roads down to I-12.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 2:59 pm to DoctorTechnical
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Central Throughway.
that was it. Well at least that helped some. While we all like to gather and discuss our amazement at the stupidity of BR roads, what are the real options available (assuming that they'd ever actually do anything about it)? A loop/bypass? Where would be the best place be in y'alls opinion? Down to Donaldsonville area and connect it to i12 and have i12 connect to the old bridge with an interstate (i.e., make airline an interstate somehow)? How far north and south would be the most viable? You gotta think it would create some positive development wherever it went though.
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 12/12/20 at 3:27 pm to BorrisMart
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what are the real options available
Real? Good luck with that.
But if it's not obvious from my username and the fact that I spent some 35 years in BTR driving from Southdowns to downtown, I've thought about it a lot.
My solution? Not what you may think:
1) build a parallel, WB MRB bridge, possibly aligned with South Blvd.
2) Expand the now fully-EB MRB offramps.
3) Flyover WB MRB approach ramps, coming off I-10/110 from the east side. NOLA expanded the GMRB while keeping things underneath like the Convention Center, surely BTR can do it to. Or just open up the checkbook and move the obstacles away.
4) Double-decker alignment along I-10 from downtown to the 10-12 split, with the MRB access along the top. Only allow local access to the MRB from the area around the 10-12 split, where there is plenty of side-room to make bridge loops.
It will only require an infinite sum of money to build. What's not to like?
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 12/12/20 at 3:44 pm to DoctorTechnical
I like that plan. I'm no expert but I have been thinking about this subject for a large percentage of my life. I speculate its non-local traffic that really keeps things hectic, but I wonder how much of a difference just a basic loop connecting WBR i10 to i110 (at the end with 61 north) and looping back to i12 somehow then connect 10 and 12 and come back across the river near St. Gabirel/Prarieville general area (or somewhere around there) and back up to 10 on the WBR side. I would assume the "through traffic" would typically take 12 to bypass having to swing south to Nola but idk. But I think you're right, it would take something more drastic than a simple loop to really fix the downtown to split issues. They let the problem go so long that its such a big task now.
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 12/12/20 at 3:47 pm to goofball
Peopl bitch they want help with congestion and then bitch about help coming. Reminds me of my first wife. Never happy.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 3:47 pm to goofball
Holy shite an off ramp roundabout. This is going to be deadly.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 3:52 pm to thegambler
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Peopl bitch they want help with congestion and then bitch about help coming. Reminds me of my first wife. Never happy.
I think people are just a little disappointed that all that money and effort will be undertaken and not remedy the issue (and in the meantime 6+ years) cause even more congestion and traffic issues, which I would assume is going to ripple out even more on the city's roads.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 6:54 pm to BorrisMart
Soo same simple mindset of all the people in the 1990s who fought mayor Tom Ed McHugh who had the foresight to build a new bridge and had money to do it. Soo, if it can't be done while I'm in the drive thru, then I don't want it.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:58 pm to goofball
IF anyone is interested in seeing the layout plan for the I-10 widening project (LA415-Essen Ln), you can see them all here.
It's actually a very impressive project. I-10 will be up to 12 lanes wide between the split and College drive. 10 lanes between Acadian and College. 8 lanes between Acadian and I-110.
LINK to I-10 project details
It's actually a very impressive project. I-10 will be up to 12 lanes wide between the split and College drive. 10 lanes between Acadian and College. 8 lanes between Acadian and I-110.
LINK to I-10 project details
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:59 pm to thegambler
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Soo same simple mindset of all the people in the 1990s who fought mayor Tom Ed McHugh who had the foresight to build a new bridge and had money to do it. Soo, if it can't be done while I'm in the drive thru, then I don't want it.
Say what? I'm not talking about that. I realize that what is done is done and the problem is currently and will continue to be what it is. I wish they would have built a new bridge, but honestly it should only be if its for a loop or bypass of some kind. I'm saying that I, and I'm sure many others, see little point in putting an expensive bandaid on the problem that isn't going to really fix anything.
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