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Average wait time to see a doctor in US as new patient is 26 days minimum

Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:17 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:17 pm
There was a discussion on wait times in socialized medicine on here recently, I really don’t think they can be much worse than our 26th ranked in the world health care system which cost more than probably the top 3 combined. Of course, when you make it profitable to keep people sick and stupid and put shite that dogs will not eat everywhere in the food supply this is the predictable outcome. It’s like year or more if you can even find a dermatologist around Mobile. Good luck if you get skin cancer. If you can’t afford to go the private physician route, may god have mercy on you


Average Patient Appointment Wait Time Is 26 Days in 2022


The 26-day patient appointment wait time is 8 percent longer than 2017’s figure, indicating a looming provider shortage, researchers said.

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By Sara Heath
September 15, 2022 - The average patient appointment wait time is up 8 percent since 2017 and 24 percent since 2004, with the latest data from Merritt Hawkins showing it takes around 26 days for a new patient to get an appointment with a provider in 2022.

The report, published by Merritt Hawkins as an offshoot of AMN Healthcare, looked at the 15 largest metropolitan areas in the United States and showed that appointment wait times—defined as the time it takes for a patient to get a medical appointment on the calendar—is higher than ever before.

“Physician appointment wait times are the longest they have been since we began conducting the survey,” Tom Florence, president of AMN Healthcare physician search division, stated publicly. “Longer physician appointment wait times are a significant indicator that the nation is experiencing a growing shortage of physicians.”

In 2022, the average time to get an appointment scheduled was 26 days, an increase from five years prior when it took 24.1 days. In 2004, when this survey was first conducted, it took 21 days for a new patient to book an appointment.

Patient appointment wait times were more egregious in some specialties than others. For example, the average wait time for a dermatology appointment was 34.5 days, which was both the longest appointment wait time in 2022 and a 7 percent increase from the 2017 survey. Dermatology wait times were as long as 84 days in Portland, Oregon, and as short as nine days in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Wait times for obstetrics/gynecology weren’t far behind, with the typical patient waiting 31.4 days for an appointment. That’s up from the 26.4-day wait time seen in 2017. Philadelphia saw the longest wait times at 56 days, while the shortest waits were in New York City at 19 days.

Meanwhile, the average patient appointment wait time for a cardiology appointment was 26.6 days, an increase from 21.1 days in 2017.

Orthopedic surgery saw the shortest average appointment wait times, with the typical patient waiting 16.9 days to get an appointment, up from 11.4 days in 2017. That said, the disparity in appointment wait time by region was staggering; in San Diego, patients wait an average of 55 days to see an orthopedic surgeon, while those in Washington, DC, wait only five days.

These findings are concerning and indicative of a looming provider shortage, Florence said. The Merritt Hawkins survey has always looked at metropolitan areas; rural regions are likely to see even worse wait times, he indicated.

“Major cities like those included in the survey have some of the highest ratios of physicians per capita in the country, yet physician appointment wait times are increasing,” Florence said. “It’s a sobering sign for the rest of the country when even patients in large cities must wait weeks to see a physician.”

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Interestingly, the typical appointment wait time in family medicine has gone down, suggesting it could be easier for a new patient to get in for primary care.

In 2022, the typical patient must wait 20.6 days to see a family physician, down from a 29.3-day wait time in 2017. That amounts to a 30 percent decrease, the report authors said.

Portland had the longest average wait times at 44 days, and Washington, DC, the shortest at eight days.

These changes reflect the shifting landscape of primary care, as alternative care sites in urgent care and retail health clinics, plus expanded scope of practice for advanced practice providers, become more commonplace.

“The number of urgent care centers and retail clinics is exploding, creating a new front door to the healthcare system,” Florence explained. “As a result, accessing a family physician, while still challenging, can be less difficult.”

READ MORE: Virtual Waiting Rooms Key for Post-COVID Patient Experience Efforts

As healthcare continues to assess how a dwindling provider workforce may impact patient access to care, it’d be wise to consider how shifts in payment may also impact care access. For example, the number of providers accepting both Medicare and Medicaid is going down.

In 2022, 82 percent of physicians in the 15 metropolitan markets analyzed accept Medicaid, down from 84.5 percent of whom did in 2017. That amounts to a 4 percent decrease.

And although on the rise, the number of physicians accepting Medicaid is still low, only at 54.1 percent.

Insurance acceptance is a critical piece of patient care access. If a clinician does not accept a patient’s insurance plan, that patient may not be able to access that provider lest she be on the hook for extreme out-of-pocket costs.

Longer and longer appointment wait times could be a detriment to the patient experience, separate research has shown. A 2018 survey looked at wait times in an office lobby, not the wait time to obtain an appointment, but nevertheless saw patient experience risks.

Thirty percent of patients who think they are waiting too long to get into the exam room said they’d leave before the appointment starts; 20 percent said they’d change providers altogether if they have a negative waiting room experience.

Dermatology offices should be particularly wary of these trends. A 2019 report looking at wait times and patient experience in dermatology showed that 70 percent of patients wished they had a shorter wait time for their appointments. Meanwhile, 90 percent of respondents said their conditions worsened while waiting to see a doctor.

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This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 10:20 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:20 pm to
Norway, the Netherlands, and Australia were the countries with the best healthcare. The United States ranked at 11, placing it at the bottom of this list. The Commonwealth Fund regularly ranks the best healthcare in the world. The United States has come in last in 2006, 2007, 2010, 2014, 2017, and 2021.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30546 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:23 pm to
There’s a shortage of doctors because medical school boards full of doctors restrict the size of new classes for decades to create a shortage and artificially increase the value of doctors. The candidates being rejected from med schools today are better than a lot of the older doctors still practicing were at the same age
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1267 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:24 pm to
Med schools are not the limiting factor.

Residencies are.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:25 pm to
Agree 100%, i wish I could get together and cut the supply of lawyers by 1/2 like they do.

We are 18th and dropping by this ranking.

18th abs dropping on this one
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94909 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:25 pm to
New patient vs existing patient and a lot of the problems are that a number of docs have retired or moved for a variety of reasons including age, problems with insurance carriers, and frustrations with the landscape since ObamaCare fricked with everything.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:28 pm to
There are some specialities which a doctor is just about impossible to find. Good luck finding a doctor in mental health.

I had a relative that was sexually assaulted by a massage therapist and even after offering to pay 10k up front and them having blue cross gold max, no one would take her as a patient, no one after calling doctors for 3 days straight.

And may that mfer rot in hell in prison
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 10:30 pm
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3700 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:48 pm to
Young woman working in clinic where my wife works just got accepted to LSU Shreveport.They accepted 128 students,had 7200 applicants.I’m sure quite a few applied to several med schools but that is still a mind boggling number of applicants.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13652 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:49 pm to
Your thread title added “minimum”—why? Average is average. The average is 26 days, so by definition is not minimum.

Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:50 pm to
128 doctors so let’s say same in New Orleans thats 250 or so let’s say 50 from Tulane stay in State so thats 300 doctors max
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:52 pm to
Mississippi is much much worse, they are so few of them last time I looked they were the 8th best paid surgeons etc in the US in the poorest state. They live like Greek Gods.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4870 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Norway, the Netherlands, and Australia were the countries with the best healthcare.


Have a colleague who's family lives in Norway and waited 7months for a head CT to rule out brain cancer.

Universal Healthcare is a bitch.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29412 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:59 pm to
This is bullshite. Totally depends on where you live. Live in a metropolis shithole, maybe. Anywhere else, no.

Case in point. I had really bad neck/scapula and left arm pain recently. Went to a walk-in clinic and had an X-ray immediately and MRI done a couple of hours later.

The PA that ordered the MRI got back to me early the next morning and told me that I needed to see an orthopedic surgeon because I have some serious issues in my neck. He made an appointment with the orthopedic group I wanted but they couldn’t see me until August 2nd. So it would have been less than 3 weeks to see the best orthopedic surgeon in Lafayette.

Well I don’t want to wait that long so I made a few phone calls and got an appointment with a top neurosurgeon in Lafayette for July 18 which is only a couple days away.

So, 5 days to see a neurosurgeon. The horror!

You don’t like long wait times? Move to a better place.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 11:18 pm
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4009 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

Norway, the Netherlands, and Australia were the countries with the best healthcare


Those 3 countries together have 15% of the population the US has.
Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:00 pm to
Yep. People die on waiting lists to see a doctor in those countries. At least here if they’re dying on a waiting list it’s for some sort of transplant
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37460 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

128 doctors so let’s say same in New Orleans thats 250 or so let’s say 50 from Tulane stay in State so thats 300 doctors max


Now do female med students now versus 20 years ago. I heard a number that to get the productivity over the life of a medical career you’d need 1.5 females for every male doctor.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:04 pm to
Come to Houston and walk around the medical center. You will find people from every country that has free healthcare. Why do you think they are here?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4009 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

number of docs have retired or moved for a variety of reasons


In the last 10-15 years you have had a lot of doctors move to concierge care. That’s really affecting physician shortages as well.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13652 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:06 pm to
LSUMC in New Orleans had 200 per class 20 years ago. I’m guessing it’s larger now.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:08 pm to
We have the greatest healthcare in the world. Provided you can afford it.
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