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re: Average man vs. Ronda Rousey
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:50 pm to IceTiger
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:50 pm to IceTiger
quote:Would she be strong enough for her lock to work on a man 60 pounds heavier than her? At some point strength and size blows right through technique
I agree, but she'd get you with locks
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I've got 75 lbs and 7 inches on her. Think about that reach and power advantage.
So you are 6'2" 210 lbs....not the avg male like the OP presented in this hypothetical.This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:52 pm to Clyde
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IWHI after my hospital visit as well.
FIFY
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:53 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:No offense to you in particular, but I've seen people fight who don't know how to fight, and their punches are pathetic.
She's not good at taking punches from other women. I've got 75 lbs and 7 inches on her. Think about that reach and power advantage.
It reminds me of people throwing out the first pitch at a baseball game who have clearly never played baseball.
If she could avoid your initial punches, which isn't hard to do when fighting an inexperienced person, she would tie you up in the clinch. Once she has a hold of you what are you going to do? If you go the ground she would break your arm or choke you out.
She could move from the clinch to a heel hook or toe hold and could finish that way.
Really, if she gets a hold, which shouldn't be difficult, and inexperienced person would have no chance. You'd have to be REALLY big, because BJJ / Judo are disciplines that can defeat much larger opponents because it's not about power and strength and is effective from traditionally poor positions like being on your back.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:55 pm to TheCanadianAmerican
Watch street fights of small guys trying to do MMA shite vs bigger guys. They get their arse kicked within minutes.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:55 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:It's not about strength. And against someone who doesn't know how to defend, you can throw up an armbar and torque their elbow before they know what hit them and have a chance to react.
well, she's a woman, so she isnt' strong enough to do that to any males that weighs 40+ more pounds.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:58 pm to rowbear1922
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So you are 6'2" 210 lbs....not the avg male like the OP presented in this hypothetical.
True
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:59 pm to AUCE05
quote:You have no idea how much training those people have.
Watch street fights of small guys trying to do MMA shite vs bigger guys. They get their arse kicked within minutes.
Someone who took some BJJ classes for a few months might think they can fight now and try that shite out in a real fight and get wrecked because they have no real experience.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:00 pm to rowbear1922
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The male you are describing isn't "average". Again, the avg. joe is not winning.
What is average then? the guy that couldn't play a single sport in high school and can't even bench 135?
I don't think that's average.
The average male is a lot stronger than her, and weighs a lot more. Technique can only get you so far. At some point strength and weight simply can't be overcome b/c she is so much weaker than her opponent.
Of all of my close friends, i'd say there's only 1 that she would win against. He's about 5'11 170, and he can't catch a football if you threw it to him. he's too uncoordinated to have a chance at fighting.
the two that are 5'8" 155ish, she would never be able to grab them. for 1 they are a lot stronger than her, and they are both too scrappy and aggressive when they want to be. The rest of us that weigh over 175 would annihilate her.
Any male with weight on her that is capable of becoming extremely aggressive, regardless of his fighting skills, will simply overwhelm her physically. Her technique will mean nothing b/c she isn't strong enough to use it. A 135lb male that uses that technique would kick everyones arse, b/c he's a lot stronger than a woman.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:02 pm to TheCanadianAmerican
Rousey's only chance would be in a takedown and try to get the armbar.
She has been exposed as not having any standup skills and her punching technique, if you want to call it that, is absolutely abysmal.
I'd say the average guys blows her out the water inside 2 minutes unless she gets hold of that arm and he's not strong enough to escape it.
She has been exposed as not having any standup skills and her punching technique, if you want to call it that, is absolutely abysmal.
I'd say the average guys blows her out the water inside 2 minutes unless she gets hold of that arm and he's not strong enough to escape it.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:02 pm to TheCanadianAmerican
I would pay to watch her beat his arse
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:03 pm to TheCanadianAmerican
I’m 5’9” 170 and I would frick her up easily. So would 75% of the guys in this thread. So yeah, the average guy would whip her arse and even a large portion of below average guys would. It’s just science guys. You retards watch too many movies.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:03 pm to PrimeTime Money
Just like Teddy said above, you can't beat physics. jiu jitsu is fools gold. MMA guys can hide behind rules protecting them.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:05 pm to PrimeTime Money
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It's not about strength. And against someone who doesn't know how to defend, you can throw up an armbar and torque their elbow before they know what hit them and have a chance to react.
It's not about strength with the two people are of somewhat comparable strength.
Most 175lb men are a lot stronger than her. A LOT, even if they don't work out anymore.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:09 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Any male with weight on her that is capable of becoming extremely aggressive, regardless of his fighting skills, will simply overwhelm her physically. Her technique will mean nothing b/c she isn't strong enough to use it. A 135lb male that uses that technique would kick everyones arse, b/c he's a lot stronger than a woman.
Sorry, you are just wrong. The OP said avg is 5'9" and 175 lbs. According to the Google machine, the avg. American male is just over 5'9" and weights 195.7 lbs with a 40" waist. That average is not beating a supremely trained and skilled fighter.
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NPR
So the avg. male would have 2 in and about 65 lbs. Good, great, but those aren't the ones that will win any kind of MMA vs Rousey.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:11 pm to TheCanadianAmerican
Go to your local Jujitsu place and find the black belt female. Call her out and see what happens. That should give you a good gauge
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:15 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:I'm well aware. What I said was said knowing this. There comes a point where size is too much to deal with. But 40 pounds isn't it.
It's not about strength with the two people are of somewhat comparable strength.
Most 175lb men are a lot stronger than her. A LOT, even if they don't work out anymore.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:19 pm to AUCE05
quote:Agreed. Let's talk about a lever and a fulcrum. You can have all those muscles, but they can't save you against the leverage put on your elbow.
you can't beat physics
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:22 pm to rowbear1922
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Sorry, you are just wrong. The OP said avg is 5'9" and 175 lbs. According to the Google machine, the avg. American male is just over 5'9" and weights 195.7 lbs with a 40" waist. That average is not beating a supremely trained and skilled fighter. Healthline
Did you also drink the kookaid when some folks were saying she could likely beat Floyd Mayweather????
I guarantee a 15 yr. old male amateur boxer, and not a Golden Glove Champ either, would clean up the ring with her.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:24 pm to Hammertime
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and has more hand-eye coordination/control that the average guy
No, she doesn’t.
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