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re: Availability of self driving cars to the public

Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:46 am to
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:46 am to
I have no idea where you are, but in high density areas, cars wouldn't need to break and would turn perfectly in front of each other without incident. It really has the opportunity to be groundbreaking. Keeps people alive, reduces if not eliminates the need for ownership of cars and WAY MORE IMPORTANTLY car insurance.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:47 am to
Yea, I doubt an automated 1 ton pickup is going to do me much good hauling cattle.

There's a load of potential there in urban settings. I don't see them ever catching on much in rural America though.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:50 am to
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I think you'll likely see a ride share company make them available long before they are going to be affordable for purchase by average Americans.


Yup.

People in most major cities won't even buy cars.

Self driving cars will come pick you up and take you wherever you want to go. They'll have stations for them all over cities. You'll pay a monthly fee based on your expected usage to Uber or whomever and the self driving car takes you to the grocery etc.
Posted by johnnydrama
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:50 am to
I want to drive my own damn car and and go wherever and whenever I want to.

Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:51 am to
Small town on the Mississppi coast.

Every place doesn't need this technology.
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:51 am to
At one time, people wanted their horses, buggy whips, and candles, too. It's one of those things that will happen over the course of decades and when it does, we'll all be fossils and the next generation won't know what it's like to have log trucks spill out on to roads and kill people.
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:54 am to
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Small town on the Mississppi coast.

Every place doesn't need this technology.


At some point, many years from now, no one will drive cars on public roads. We'll all be better for it. People will decry the loss of freedom or whatever, but no one's kids will die going home from a football game. Junkies won't cross center lines and cripple harworking carpenters. People will get where they are going quickly, live further out from population centers, and have productive working commutes. It will be a net plus.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:54 am to
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When can we realistically expect there to be self driving cars available to the public on a large scale across multiple manufacturers at a reasonable price point?

Not soon enough.

I really, really want to wait it out as they're just so expensive, but every day I get closer and closer to really pissing my wife off and deciding to pony up for a Tesla Model S. My best friend has one, and they're just so nice.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:57 am to
Don't get me wrong, I'll be first in line to buy one. I can't wait to sleep on the way to work and get shite canned drunk without having to find a ride. There will ALWAYS be a need for man-piloted vehicles though.
Posted by johnnydrama
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:59 am to
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At some point, many years from now, no one will drive cars on public roads. We'll all be better for it. People will decry the loss of freedom or whatever, but no one's kids will die going home from a football game. Junkies won't cross center lines and cripple harworking carpenters. People will get where they are going quickly, live further out from population centers, and have productive working commutes. It will be a net plus.

frick you, dude. shite happens. Don't take away my freedom of movement.
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:59 am to
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There will ALWAYS be a need for man-piloted vehicles though.


Maybe. Those uses will become fewer and fewer until the point where they are like candlemakers or cobblers.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26152 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:00 am to
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frick you, dude. shite happens. Don't take away my freedom of movement.


You'll still be able to move, you just won't be the pilot any more. You'll be reading or using VR or whatever.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:03 am to
Nah it won't be that extreme. The autonomous vehicles will be near-exclusive users of the road in cities, but they will always need to share the road with a large number of piloted vehicles in rural areas.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:04 am to
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It will become imperative once the government decides to restrict individual freedom of movement.

We may be talking 50 years from now, but if it can be proven and put in use and shown to cut accidents/fatalities down by some crazy amount then the government should restrict the use of non-autonomous vehicles.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:06 am to
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In Atlanta or Houston...it's not going to do shite for me.

Why not?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25696 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:07 am to
Right nah, they will have more by 2020 though
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17242 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:08 am to
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10k more? 20k?


You left off a zero on each of those numbers.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:12 am to
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his will happen more quickly than people think

it will become a moral imperative once everyone realizes the lives saved

30,000 people die on the road every year

if we could reduce that by 90%, why wouldnt we, like today


Automated cars have a higher accident rate than human controlled cars. So for now the moral imperative is to get rid of these automated cars.

Of course, once people realize your automated car can be hacked and taken over, no one will buy these things at all. Anyone that thinks that can't happen or that it won't happen is a first class idiot.

Lastly, anything Google is involved in should just be blown up. That is an evil company.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:14 am to
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A self-driving car in my mind is going to be a completely different thing in terms of look and design. I would expect the cabin to be like the inside of a train car with the seats facing each other and a table or something in the middle. It's going to be pretty incredible. Also, I expect the model to be that these self-driving pods will be fungible, you won't need to own one (just hail one) and they will be parked in strategic places or on the roads. They'll be networked together and with the infrastructure such that the efficiency gains will be staggering.

As to when that future exists, we're probably looking at two decades or less.


Put them on rails, not roads, and I'm a supporter. Otherwise, blow them all up.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:16 am to
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I want to drive my own damn car and and go wherever and whenever I want to.

Well, be happy you live in today's world and not 100 years from now.

And it's not about what you want, it's about what can keep people safe on the roads.
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