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re: Aussie woman calls cops after hearing noise, Minn. police kill her Update:officer named
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:44 am to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:44 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Did you land on your Jump to Conclusions mat? How do you know it's without cause?
I've watched The Shield.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:49 am to SoFla Tideroller
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The problem of cost for departments isn't the hardware, it's the storage of data. That's why most departments have a policy of activating them only when on calls or certain types of calls.
From what I've been told it's video storage capacity as well as battery life. There has to be enough of both to record for extended amounts of time at above average quality for an unknown amount of time.
I asked a cop friend of mine how his body cam compared to cell phone cameras at the time. Now this was a couple years ago - but he said that his department's standard issue body cams were considered fairly high quality and held 5-15 hours of video depending on quality setting (720 maybe? being the lowest allowed)... but could only record 2.5-4 hours shot continuously on a single battery. Some of the cameras other departments were upgrading to could hold 3-6 hours continuously shot video.
ETA:
Also - They were not allowed to clear the video off their own cams in order to prevent intentional deletion.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:49 am to shel311
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Again, maybe they 100% should have been on, but can we wait for more info before making that call?
They were responding to a call about a woman hearing a noise behind her house. I would think they are going to at least give some chance they encounter a person in a position he/she should not be in, no? That would lead me to believe that based on what I quoted, the body cams should be on and if they aren't then the officers are not complying with the guidelines.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:50 am to NYNolaguy1
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Also I'm sure the dash camera was on
Actually it wasnt...
Staement from press "The officers’ body cameras were not turned on at the time and the squad camera did not capture the incident. Investigators are attempting to determine whether any video of the incident exists.”
Either you have poor comprehension skills or you have an agenda like this newspaper who printed this skewed report. They did not say the the camera wasn't on just that there is no video. If their body cameras were on there still wouldn't be any video. How hard is this to understand?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:51 am to lsuhunt555
quote:Some chance, yes. Could they reasonably assume that? I'm no cop, but I'm guessing cops get weird calls here and there like that at night that turn up to be nothing. To be honest, I'm just not sure since we have no evidence of this that they could have reasonably assumed they'd need the cam on at the very moment this happened.
They were responding to a call about a woman hearing a noise behind her house. I would think they are going to at least give some chance they encounter a person in a position he/she should not be in, no?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:53 am to yurintroubl
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From what I've been told it's video storage capacity as well as battery life. There has to be enough of both to record for extended amounts of time at above average quality for an unknown amount of time.
I asked a cop friend of mine how his body cam compared to cell phone cameras at the time. Now this was a couple years ago - but he said that his department's standard issue body cams were considered fairly high quality and held 5-15 hours of video depending on quality setting (720 maybe? being the lowest allowed)... but could only record 2.5-4 hours shot continuously on a single battery. Some of the cameras other departments were upgrading to could hold 3-6 hours continuously shot video.
Slim Lithium Ion Battery Pack with USB-C.
There is a solution to everything. Life is something that should not be taken for cheap. Were talking about running a small line or even camera back mounted.
It's just obvious that some LEO don't want folks to know everything that goes down.
For the most part LivePD does a great job at showing the bullshite LEO goes through. However, moments like this still show gaps.
We all need to expect better.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:54 am to Grim
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If it were a black person that was shot everyone here would be saying "There must be more to the story" But she was white so they're ready to convict the cop without any more details
Nailed it.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:56 am to shel311
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but I'm guessing cops get weird calls here and there
Absolutely, hell my wife called the cops one night saying she was woken up after she heard glass break and once the cops got there and investigated it turned out her keys fell off the counter and landed on the tile.
I guess my hang up here is they implemented body cams in order to create environments for cops to not be under constant scrutiny, then they kill a woman and conveniently didn't have them on. They aren't doing themselves any favors here.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:57 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Nailed it.
Except for all the people in this thread saying there must be more to the story. Your shtick is so fricking tired.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:57 am to boogedy
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They did not say the the camera wasn't on just that there is no video.
So you think the dashcam was only recording audio, but not video?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:59 am to lsuhunt555
quote:I certainly agree. It would be great if they were just always on. Or if they would be required to turn them on the moment they respond that they're headed to a call. Something along those lines.
I guess my hang up here is they implemented body cams in order to create environments for cops to not be under constant scrutiny, then they kill a woman and conveniently didn't have them on. They aren't doing themselves any favors here.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:59 am to LSUTANGERINE
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If it were a black person that was shot everyone here would be saying "There must be more to the story" But she was white so they're ready to convict the cop without any more details
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Nailed it.
Look, Tangerine drawing incorrect conclusions again.
Read the thread dumbass.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:59 am to LNCHBOX
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Except for all the people in this thread saying there must be more to the story. Your shtick is so fricking tired.
I simply agreed with the poster who originally stated that the tenor of this thread is quite different then if the victim was someone else. I know it's true You know it's true. We're up to what six or seven pages now and not one "Dindu".
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 11:03 am
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:00 am to NYNolaguy1
Good shoot. I feel so much safer already.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:00 am to LSUTANGERINE
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the tenor of this thread is very much different then if the victim was someone else.
What about the alto or soprano of this thread? Why only discuss then tenor?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:00 am to YumYum Sauce
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she was hot too
Sadly, this is the only reason this is even a story
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:02 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Well, that is the fault of you and your cohorts.
Certainly there are a few. But like the poster who first commented said, the tenor of this thread is very much different then if the victim was someone else. I know it. You know it,
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:03 am to NYNolaguy1
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So you think the dashcam was only recording audio, but not video?
Seriously dude stop and think. If the dashcam was on where would it be pointed? Where, in relation to the officers' vehicle, was the woman shot? These are questions you should ask yourself. I guess common sense is not something everyone beholds.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:03 am to LSUTANGERINE
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I know it's true
Because you're delusional
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:05 am to boogedy
quote:There would be audio and a time stamp.
Seriously dude stop and think. If the dashcam was on where would it be pointed? Where, in relation to the officers' vehicle, was the woman shot?
quote:Pot meet kettle.
I guess common sense is not something everyone beholds.
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