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re: ATC Summer Underage Drinking Crackdown

Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2334 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:41 pm to
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This is why the drinking age should be 18.


I totally agree, college students should not have to worry about being able to get a drink.

Hopefully self driving cars will soon fix this.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:49 pm to
What has always amused me is that MADD is very against underage drinking (under 21) in the US. Yet the drinking age in Canada is 19, and MADD Canada has no problem with it there.

How people got bamboozled into agreeing to this nonsense is beyond me.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

I totally agree, college students should not have to worry about being able to get a drink.

Hopefully self driving cars will soon fix this.



It was never about safety. If that was the case, most non driving cities (NYC, DC, Boston, etc) wouldn't have been included. Which is also the reason the law won't change after driverless cars are introduced. Who is going to support those budgets now?

It was all about the $$$ that zero tolerance liquor laws brought across the country against a class of people (18-20) that can't typically defend themselves against. Think about how many people ATC employs, or ABC at LSU tailgating. Those salaries aren't cheap- all in the name of "safety".
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61622 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:03 pm to
Is it even possible that tigerland bars AREN'T paying off officials/agencies?
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10911 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:14 pm to
You boys down in Louisiana need to join in the revolution. It is the corrupt federal government that is keeping the states from enacting their own drinking age by wrongfully threatening to withhold federal highway funds if we don't comply.

Every year in South Dakota a politician from out in West River (that's the western, more cowboy part of the state) introduces legislation to lower the drinking age to back to 18. Every year it gets closer to passing.

Louisiana and South Dakota were the last two states to bow to the feds when this National Drinking Age was rammed down our throats, let us be the first two to say frick you to the Feds and put the drinking age back where we want it...

...and I'm a 40 something year old man that has this opinion.
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:17 pm to
I remember back ten years ago watching them rape people all night long at the circle K on brightside.

Good times...
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

You boys down in Louisiana need to join in the revolution. It is the corrupt federal government that is keeping the states from enacting their own drinking age by wrongfully threatening to withhold federal highway funds if we don't comply.



you don't know much about da culcha... huh, baw?
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:18 pm to
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Is it even possible that tigerland bars AREN'T paying off officials/agencies?


Either they're paying the officials off, or they are very well versed in identifying stings.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:21 pm to
I wonder if the feds really would withhold highway funds if a state said "We think the drinking age should be 18". I mean, Colorado and Washington legalized pot by a wide margin and the feds shrugged and moved on. Seems to me that's something libertarian leaning Republicans and socially liberal Democrats could agree on.....
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10911 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:23 pm to
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you don't know much about da culcha... huh, baw?


Educate me.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61622 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:23 pm to
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or they are very well versed in identifying stings.
I guess that's possible, but I can't imagine that they couldn't get at least one out of the seven after a few attempts.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111673 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

You boys down in Louisiana need to join in the revolution. It is the corrupt federal government that is keeping the states from enacting their own drinking age by wrongfully threatening to withhold federal highway funds if we don't comply.


Actually, we were the last holdout in that battle, bro.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:30 pm to
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I guess that's possible, but I can't imagine that they couldn't get at least one out of the seven after a few attempts.


They raided bogies recently on a Wednesday night. Like 5 people in the bar.


I'm going with payoff
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

I wonder if the feds really would withhold highway funds if a state said "We think the drinking age should be 18". I mean, Colorado and Washington legalized pot by a wide margin and the feds shrugged and moved on. Seems to me that's something libertarian leaning Republicans and socially liberal Democrats could agree on.....



Doubt it would fly, too many graphic car crash photos where teenagers died due to drunk driving. There's a logical argument to be had that the higher drinking age is partially what leads to the binge drinking (that ultimately leads to the dead teenagers), but there are a lot of enraged mothers out there that don't want to here it.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

there are a lot of enraged mothers out there that don't want to here it.


There are also a lot of enraged 18-20 year old voters out there too. I would bet most people under 35 would support this.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:45 pm to
You may be right.
Reagan was president when they started the push toward raising the drinking age and using federal highway funds as the cudgel. Even though he was a conservative, states rights guy, I remember one of his aides saying the MADD types got to him with horror stories about what happened to their kids.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10911 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:59 pm to
Underage drinking leads to teenage traffic deaths, one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. You know what lowering the drinking age did? It forced us out of the bars and onto the roads. I spent those years out on the gravel roads of the midwest "road tripping' and "gravel travelling". All it did was forced underage drinkers out on to the roads and to participate in other risky behavior like party hopping and binge drinking in order to evade the cops.

Like I said, I'm mid 40's and I think you would find most people my age and lower who think the underage drinking laws are stupid. I think the power of the vote is actually on our side at this point.
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 4:22 pm to
Why is Great Wall on that list?
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