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re: At fault accident question

Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:23 am to
Posted by mrPresident
Member since Aug 2015
439 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:23 am to
It's all a he said she said thing anyway. Yes you're presumed to be at fault for rear end collisions but Louisiana is a comparative fault state. Which means if you can somehow prove he was the aggressor and caused the accident then you could be free from liability or at the very worst share 50/50 liability or fault with the other driver. Because technically you should have seen him coming and been prepared to stop if he didn't act accordingly.
Posted by Pico de Gallo
Member since Aug 2016
1894 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:23 am to
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Him. Failure to yield.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52385 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:27 am to
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This is why dashcams exist.


FIFY

I wouldn’t trust a hypothetical individual who might not even get assigned to your accident.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15468 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:31 am to
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Slide over and nip that back side bumper, you have a chance.

In Louisiana, I made a lane change and a car in the other lane sped up to try to block me so she nipped my side/back bumper. She insisted on calling the police to write up a report and wouldn’t even roll down her window to talk.

The cop was nice enough but he found me at fault and said that they consider “time and distance” when determining fault, even for rear end collisions. I guess he thought that I should have given enough room to compensate for her speeding up or maybe he found her to be more credible; I don’t know what story she told him.

At least she had to go through the pain of getting her car fixed.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:34 am to
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and you better make sure you truly weren't speeding cause that will be a factor.


This is, for the most part, false.

For example, Let's suppose you are doing 70 MPH in a 50 and some guy pulls in front of you , and you hit him.

He's at fault, the fact that you were speeding is irrelevant.

Accident investigators use a hierarchy of violations to help determine fault and failure to yield > speeding in terms of cause of an accident. This is why if a drunk is involved in accident they are almost always at fault regardless of other circumstances. Accident investigators automatically assume the impairment played a major role in any accident .
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28676 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:35 am to
You hit someone in the rear, it's your fault 99% of the time.

18 wheeler was following my wife at a safe distance on the interstate. They get into traffic and have to come to a stop, two cars quickly pull inbetween my wife and the 18 wheeler, and he has no shot of stopping in time now. Hits them in the rear. 5 car accident. Dipshit in front my wife, with barely a scratch on his vehicle, sues everyone, and gets over $400k, majority coming from the 18 wheeler, who was without a doubt not truly at fault.
frick the lawyers and their piece of shite doctors, as well as the judges, that award shite like this to undeserving people.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30439 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:36 am to
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This is, for the most part, false.

For example, Let's suppose you are doing 70 MPH in a 50 and some guy pulls in front of you , and you hit him


You're absolutely incorrect, especially in a comparative fault state.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30439 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:38 am to
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frick the lawyers and their piece of shite doctors, as well as the judges, that award shite like this to undeserving people.


It's the lawyers and insurance companies. These cases almost never go to court, the insurance companies will settle and the ambulance chaser will take the cash as quickly as possible and move to the next case.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:39 am to
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they consider “time and distance” when determining fault, even for rear end collisions.


And this is why in the OP's example, the driver who pulled out would be at fault . Unless , of course, the OP was incorrect when he said the other driver pulled out "right in front of him" it's a timing situation. And investigators don't have to just take people's words for it. They can use tire marks and debris trails and other things to determine who pulled out when and where. Modern cars are even more and more often being equipped with software that is able to log things like braking distance and such during an accident and police can access that data.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
18176 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:39 am to
Dude just get a dash cam. That takes all the guess work out of the equation.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172301 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:42 am to
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He's at fault, the fact that you were speeding is irrelevant.


False.
Posted by Wayne Kenoff
Member since Sep 2018
540 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:50 am to
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Also if you would have swerved and hit something due to that person pulling out then it is also their fault.


don't think that is true at all.
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If they leave them it is a hit and run.



they didn't hit anything.


Wrong. In 2015 I was leaving work near LSU and took the River Road to avoid the traffic. A dump truck pulled in front of the guy in front of me, off of Brightside and turned left onto the River Road.

Guy in front of me had to slam his breaks to avoid hitting the dump truck, and I had to slam my breaks to avoid hitting both the guy in front of me AND the dump truck (since the guy in front of me swerved also, allowing room for my car to shoot right toward the dump truck).

I ended up swerving as well and tried to thread the needle between the guy in front of me and some road signs. I was doing great until I hit mud on the side of the road. Once I hit that mud, it took me right into four or five road signs. Destroyed the entire right side of my car.

The dump truck kept going.

The two students riding in the truck in front of me stopped and checked on me. I asked if they got the dump truck's license plate number and they said they hadn't but offered to go get it while I waited for the cops. They took off and followed the truck driver, got his plate number, pulled him over and told him he caused an accident.

He of course denied any wrong doing and kept going.

Well while I was waiting for the cops the students returned to give me the plate number and while we were standing there talking, the dump truck driver actually came back, slowed down, rolled his window down, and yelled something at us (couldn't understand what he said) BUT I got a good look at him and what he looked like.

The cops got there, gave him our story of what happened, and he said that if they catch the driver, he will be charged with a hit and run since he caused the accident and kept going.

Next morning, I'm on my way back to work in my rental car on the same stretch of road, thinking how awesome it would be if I saw that dump truck and was able to call the cops and have them catch him.

SURE ENOUGH 2 minutes after that thought crossed my mind, I saw the same dump truck pass me going the opposite direction. I turned around and sped up to see the plate. The plate matched!!!

I called 911 and told them I found the guy and that his plate matched. I followed him until he pulled into his job site and the 911 operator instructed me to pull over at a safe distance away so as to not draw attention to myself but to make sure I would see if he left before the cops got there.

Cops arrive, check him out and then came question me. The cop said the following to me,
"Look, the description of the vehicle and his plate matches the witnesses and your statement from the accident. Are you sure this is him? I explained that I was 100% sure because (now that I could see him face to face) I recognized him from when he turned around, came back to the scene, and yelled something at us. If he hadn't done that then I would've never known what he looked like.

That driver was a jackass. He was arrested on the spot for hit-and-run and I never hit his vehicle.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:50 am to
As was explained to me at an accident scene, whoever is on the larger road has the right of way
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
82719 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:51 am to
If you read-ended him but you said he pulled out right in front of you, a smart lawyer would look at how far it is from the driveway he left to the point of impact and hammer that in liability negotiations.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:53 am to
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False.



It's not false. Based on the OP's exact scenario , the other driver pulled right in front him, it wouldn't matter if he was speeding or not. You don't yield the right of way simply by speeding, and the person pulling onto the larger road is absolutely required to make sure he has a clear road to pull onto.

As I said earlier though, if the guy pulled out and headed on down the road and then you came up behind him and hit him, that's a different circumstance.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30439 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:55 am to
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It's not false. Based on the OP's exact scenario , the other driver pulled right in front him, it wouldn't matter if he was speeding or not. You don't yield the right of way simply by speeding, and the person pulling onto the larger road is absolutely required to make sure he has a clear road to pull onto.


Comparative fault, a concept you do not understand
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:57 am to
the Person pulling out is at fault. Period.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2896 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:58 am to
Pulling out of private drive, you have right of way.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:00 am to
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I was on my way to work driving the speed limit (45) and there was no one in front of me. Some idiot was at the edge of his driveway waiting to pull out onto the road.


Was he a midget? Gotta watch out for those little bastards!
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172301 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:02 am to
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, the other driver pulled right in front him, it wouldn't matter if he was speeding or not.


No it does matter, cause it determines a reasonableness of the driver should be able to not hit the vehicle in front of them.

A driver going 60 in a 35 obviously needs an abundant more distance to slow down than a driver going 35. If a cop sees brake marks from a good distance away and sees their inability to stop the vehicle, they know the driver was speeding and being wreckless.
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