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re: Asking for prayers for my dad **UPDATE, want to thank TD nation**
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:54 pm to schwartzy
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:54 pm to schwartzy
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schwartzy
Thinking of you guys now. Let us know how he and you are holding up.
Stay strong and take care of yourself while he’s in the hospital.
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:56 pm to Goldietiger
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This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:19 pm to Capt ST
We are seeing about 55% of intubated patients coming off the vent. It's much better than the first wave. Prayers for your father.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:40 pm to schwartzy
Praying for you and your dad boss!
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:59 pm to Bryno1960
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I also believe it’s a personal medical decision for every person. I sincerely apologize for my misconception of your stance.
Ive posted hyperbolic statements that would have been interpreted as such, illustrating absurdity by being absurd as Rush said. I think anyone that is comfortable getting the shot or has preexisting conditions should get it. Its sad it has become a political trench war and people are being demonized who have made sound, rational, logical decisions based on science to NOT get it at this time.
The odds of me being seriously impacted by Covid (already had it) could be mathematically greater than being effected by the vaccine, be that as it may BOTH are statistically insignificant AT THIS TIME.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:04 pm to schwartzy
Dad sounds like a fighter. Prayers sent.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:07 pm to schwartzy
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He didn’t get the vaccine and nothing I could have said would’ve made him
Why post this?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:04 pm to GumboPot
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What about this protocol: MATH
RECOVERY trial used dexamethasone, showed mortality benefit. Which we're already doing (which is also higher than the same methylpred equivalent); that is standard of care. There was also a study from south america that used salvage methylpred at like 3g/day for 3 days for patients with COVID as a last ditch effort (not standard of care)
ACTIV4a trial data has shown the risk of full dose anticoagulation on patients, esp the ICU-level care requiring NIV or vent dependent, without clear evidence of DVT/PE to have increased #s of complications.
fluvoxamine was studied in a small subset of patients in an outpatient setting, but had significant limitations (i.e. not hospitalized patients, small subset/cohort)
atorvastatin with critical illness myopathy, eh rather not if i don't have to
goodluck getting PLEX on anyone that doesn't meet a real indication for it.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:29 pm to schwartzy
Praying for your father
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:16 pm to The Boat
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Covid patients mindlessly being put on vents when it doesn’t help.
Well the alternative is to let them tire out and die, so…
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:16 am to schwartzy
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Thank y’all for any prayers.
They’re on the way. Hold fast.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 1:57 am to Chucktown_Badger
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And it was her choice...
Some choice.
Hey, mom, get the vaccine or never see your children or grandchildren again.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:23 am to ghost2most
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How hard is it to get through to you that vaccinated people are MUCH less likely to require hospitalization than nonvaxxed.
Cases can go to the moon but if people don't get sick enough to have to go to the hospital this thing is fricking over. It's just another bad cold.
I guess it's as hard to get through to you that exposure to the vast majority of people causes just another bad cold symptoms. Vaxxed or Unvaxxed. We only hear about the worst cases. The billions of people that have been exposed world wide that didn't need a vent or that didn't die is somehow lost on your feeble brain. It's astounding really.
There are roughly 34 ICU beds for every 100k people in the US. That means there are approximately 100k ICU beds in America. Before Covid, ICUs in American ran at 80-90% capacity. Why do you think the vast number of ICU patients were admitted pre-covid? It was respiratory illnesses. Period. There aren't any more respiratory patients that are in the ICU than before COVID-19. They're just labeled covid patients now. Look at the reimbursement for covid admissions and you'll see why hospitals want covid patients admitted. You think hospitals are non-profit? If insurance companies stopped reimbursement for covid-19 tomorrow, hospitals would stop testing and admitting under that diagnosis THAT SAME DAY. This is a scam as much about money as it is safety. Now, there are people dying of respiratory illnesses, but there have always been people dying of respiratory illnesses.
There are just as many trauma patients in the ICU as before. ICUs aren't turfing trauma patients to med/surg floors because they are over flowing with respiratory patients. Take a break from the media for a change. It isn't as bad as they say. Just like the first round wasn't. You're gonna get through this chicken little.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:32 am to cwil177
the alternative is to let them tire out and die, so…
Perhaps another option could be to relax their respiratory drive without total sedation and give high flow Oxygen without the trauma of intubation. But perhaps an ICU admission makes the hospitals more than a lower tier admission does. If the patient is intubated there is no choice but to admit to ICU. If the patient is relaxed with a mild sedative and administered high flow oxygen by BiPAP or high flow nasal cannula let's say, they could be admitted to med/surg or step down, etc.
Perhaps another option could be to relax their respiratory drive without total sedation and give high flow Oxygen without the trauma of intubation. But perhaps an ICU admission makes the hospitals more than a lower tier admission does. If the patient is intubated there is no choice but to admit to ICU. If the patient is relaxed with a mild sedative and administered high flow oxygen by BiPAP or high flow nasal cannula let's say, they could be admitted to med/surg or step down, etc.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:00 am to schwartzy
Sorry to hear this.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:11 am to Strannix
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Its sad it has become a political trench war and people are being demonized who have made sound, rational, logical decisions based on science to NOT get it at this time.
I agree that it's sad the media and government has politicized this. Just like I made the decision to get the shots because, even though I'm over 60, I'm in excellent physical condition and health. It's well within someone's right to choose not to get it. Both of us have our reasons for our decisions and that's the way it should be.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:25 am
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:13 am to Bryno1960
Agree 100% good luck to you and stay safe.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:13 am to schwartzy
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I trusted he’d get the best care as a physician, but these hospital protocols need to be questioned
You seem to have very little understanding of the inner-workings of a hospital system for someone purporting to be actively seeking admission to med school. Nurses can't give "the best care" when they are assigned to several other patients in a max capacity unit.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:29 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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You think hospitals are non-profit? If insurance companies stopped reimbursement for covid-19 tomorrow, hospitals would stop testing and admitting under that diagnosis THAT SAME DAY. This is a scam as much about money as it is safety.
You have no clue about hospital cost and reimbursement. ICU cases seldom make money, Covid cases included. These patients are the costliest patients in a hospital. They use a lot of very high cost drugs, many are on dialysis, patient care is either a ratio of 1:1 or 1:2. There is a whole different group of people dying from respiratory illnesses than pre-Covid. My hospital had never seen 30-60 year olds coming to us for therapy and rehabilitation after flu cases. Never. We have had MANY cases of 30-60 year olds who did not have co-morbidities who had spent months in ICU on a vent and were not strong enough to walk. This is not what happens with the flu.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:47 am to LaLadyinTx
ICUs don't make money. Cath labs make money. I've worked in the medical field for 3 decades toots. Hospitals make money. If they didn't they wouldn't stay open. No one works for free. Who do you think is paying your salary?
My point is that respiratory illness has hospitalized people since the beginning of hospitals. ICUs have always run at or near capacity, but hey you know this,because you've probably worked in one hospital your entire career.
My point is that respiratory illness has hospitalized people since the beginning of hospitals. ICUs have always run at or near capacity, but hey you know this,because you've probably worked in one hospital your entire career.
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