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re: Ascension parish president proposes year-long moratorium on new developments

Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:16 am to
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:16 am to
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"Developers will just threaten to sue like they do everytime this is dicussed. The council will back down like they do everytime."

I'm seriously thinking about running against Orgeron in my district next election for the sole purpose of telling the developers

That excuse is beyond used up.
I just wish Corey would use some of that developer cash to keep his own house up. Its one of the worst looking on our street.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71038 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:17 am to
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seriously thinking about running


Same.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33042 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:29 am to
I am as small government as they come, but I think AP may be past the point where it’s convenient to just avoid major investments in roads, sewers, zoning, signage restrictions, fire protection, and drainage. And as the region grows...police protection.

It just grew too quickly without enough proper planning. And what they did plan for, they rarely seem to enforce anything. Now it’s going to be a headache to fix it all.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:55 am to
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. And what they did plan for, they rarely seem to enforce anything.


When the planning committee is on the take, it gets increasingly difficult for them to do the right thing.
If this gets shot down, its time for a group of citizens to sue the committee.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
3071 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:37 am to
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You don't need one when you slide a councilman, like Corey Orgeron, a couple stacks.


I’ve seen his name a couple of times in this thread. I’m not familiar with him other than I believe he may have run for judge at some point. What’s his story?
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9687 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:40 am to
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about time. Hope he sticks to it. They’ve said this in the past and palms get greased and subdivisions get built.


And there’s no reason to think it will be different this time around. It’s all political posturing.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:41 am to
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So how many of these along a short span of the gulf coast in the last 5 years? Not so much a 100 year event, or even a 50 year one. It happens frequently when you put it on the timescale of property development and ownership. So, this token metric of 80% of runoff for a 1 hour event is pointless.


That's a fair ask.

We don't have data from the last 1,000 years to back up our 100 year, 500 year assumptions. And even 100 years ago, most of Louisiana was wilderness or agriculture. If it flooded, we the people living in the cities wouldn't have noticed or cared.

Perhaps newer developments should be built to a higher elevation.

quote:

Build and maintain better if you want to live your entire lives in a flat muddy place.


Public infrastructure needs to be functional and well maintained anywhere. But drainage in particular is critical in the lower gulf coast states, where these astonishingly heavy rainfalls are more common than in, say, the midwest.
Posted by Bruiser12221
Member since Nov 2020
226 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:56 am to
ForLSU56, just a little note on your comment. I’ve studied this for years, a P&Z, City Government, has never been sued successfully when it comes to flood plain management and FEMA guidelines. In fact, very few cases where they have been sued by developers and lost. These elected officials are using that as an excuse, they have the ultimate power when it comes to approval IF it’s not arbitrary and it’s backed by code. This can be stopped, and it’s well past time it is. These cases have been all the way to the SCOTUS and La Supreme Court and upheld.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:09 am to
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And there’s no reason to think it will be different this time around. It’s all political posturing.

Clint Cointment is a politician through and through, but he did recently veto a vote to go through with the development of yet another small neighborhood off Hwy 73. All these landowners want to sell right now, and I really can't blame them. But the problem is, none of the roads are getting expanded and at the end of the day the developer throws his hands up and says it's the state's responsibility to handle the infrastructure. And now we can add to that the issue of drainage.

The developer only cares about making money, and frick all the people who live here. So it was refreshing for Cointment to shoot them down when they tried to sue to get their way.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7125 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:16 am to
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And Dempsy Lambert


Yeah, I was told this dude works for Atmos Gas Company. So wouldn't it be a conflict of interest for him to vote for approving or denying a development when it is an area that Atmos serves?
Of course, there's no such thing as corruption in Ascension Parish!
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:19 am to
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yet another small neighborhood off Hwy 73. All these landowners want to sell right now, and I really can't blame them. But the problem is, none of the roads are getting expanded


Wasn't 73 just expanded?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:30 am to
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developer throws his hands up and says it's the state's responsibility to handle the infrastructure


I honestly don't see what you can get the developer to do to the main arterial road they are linking to beside add turn lanes.

I would have to agree that they shouldn't be entirely responsible for the state ignoring the needs of its constituents in favor of bullshite pet projects for decades. Some of those streets in the main rural grid pattern in Ascension Parish should have been widened a long time ago - through both state and local funding. Neither of which the parish is getting.

73 between 74 and Highway 30 should have been widened to a 3 lane curb and gutter road with drainage, sidewalks, and lighting a long time ago. Probably even 5 lanes in some sections (such as around Dutchtown). They only just recently finished the other section between I-10 and Airline (3 lane road).
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 9:35 am
Posted by tigers25
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2020
2158 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:31 am to
I know it will never happen, but 73 needs to be 4 lanes with a center turn lane from airline Highway to Highway 75, or at least to Highway 30.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2485 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:32 am to
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Hey there Dave Amrheim and SWB, follow suit


Dictator David is getting too many kick backs from developers to stop this.
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14685 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:34 am to
42 is finally 4 lanes and by God it is glorious
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:35 am to
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I know it will never happen, but 73 needs to be 4 lanes with a center turn lane from airline Highway to Highway 75, or at least to Highway 30.



I can't believe Highway 30 is still only 2 lanes between LSU and Gonazles. That's a major state highway and it is completely inadequate. They are practically encouraging more people to use I-10 by not upgrading that road.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:41 am to
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42 is finally 4 lanes and by God it is glorious



Yeah it came out well. If it were done in a reasonable amount of time, I'd say that is a benchmark for the main arteries in Ascension Parish like LA44, LA30, LA74, etc. It just took forever to finish.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71038 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:44 am to
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42 is finally 4 lanes and by God it is glorious


After what, 15 years of work? Whatd the total cost of that cluster frick end up being?

Thats my issue with raising taxes for infrastructure. Show me you are effectively using the budget you have now and then we can talk about bumping up.
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:45 am to
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These elected officials are using that as an excuse,


My point exactly and yes, the development can be stopped but the area is so far behind on infrastructure that they will never catch up.

Also, digging a water retention pond on a site and using that dirt to build up the area is a total farce. The damn pond stays full of water so how does that allow it to function as intended as a retention pond?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:52 am to
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I know it will never happen, but 73 needs to be 4 lanes with a center turn lane from airline Highway to Highway 75, or at least to Highway 30.


Hard to imagine they did all that work and took all that time to just make it 3 lanes.
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