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re: Ark Encounter in Kentucky (mostly not travel-related)

Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123989 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:25 pm to
Believing in Christ has nothing to do with Young Earth Creationism.

You can believe in Christ and still recognize facts and evidence instead having to jump through hoops to believe observably false things. Theistic Evolution is a perfectly fine thing.

YEC is not just false, it is objectively false and offensive.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:28 pm to
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It does frustrate me though, how most people can’t seem to make the connection between our collective disobedience to God and the sad state of affairs that is our world today.


Can you point to what time in history the world DIDN'T suck for the average human? How is life today more of a sad state of affairs than it was 50 years ago? 100 years ago? 250 years ago? 500 years ago? 1000 years ago? 2000 years ago when Jesus was alive?

If the sad state of affairs in the world today is a result of our collective disobedience to God, then surely there was a time when we were collectively obedient and the world was a happy state of affairs? At least that's what you're suggesting
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
13550 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:28 pm to
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And why Satan put them there?


He really wanted to see Jurassic Park.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70425 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:31 pm to
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If the sad state of affairs in the world today is a result of our collective disobedience to God, then surely there was a time when we were collectively obedient and the world was a happy state of affairs? At least that's what you're suggesting


Exactly. It’s only a “sad state of affairs” because it’s the narrative he chooses.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:36 pm to
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Copying and pasting scripture doesn't help your case.

It’s not my case you should be worried about. I have no case. My debt has been forgiven. Here’s some more “not help.”
Proverbs 1:27–32 (NASB95): When your dread comes like a storm
And your calamity comes like a whirlwind,
When distress and anguish come upon you.
28 “Then they will call on me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me diligently but they will not find me,
29 Because they hated knowledge
And did not choose the fear of the Lord.
30 “They would not accept my counsel,
They spurned all my reproof.
31 “So they shall eat of the fruit of their own way
And be satiated with their own devices.
32 “For the waywardness of the naive will kill them,
And the complacency of fools will destroy them.

Romans 2:5–6 (NASB95): But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
6 who will render to each person according to his deeds:

Proverbs 26:11–12 (NASB95): 11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit
Is a fool who repeats his folly.
12 Do you see a man wise in his own eyes?
There is more hope for a fool than for him.

It might as well still be in Greek.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123989 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:37 pm to
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It does frustrate me though, how most people can’t seem to make the connection between our collective disobedience to God and the sad state of affairs that is our world today.


By most objective measures we are currently in the best time in human history to be alive.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:49 pm to
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There’s something very poetic about getting lectured on morality by Captain Dickhead. Carry on.


It’s Captain Duckhead. I’m an avid duck hunter.

Furthermore, it wouldn’t matter if my name was Mother Theresa- you will respond to the Gospel according to what is in your own heart. And by that you will be judged. Good luck telling God, on Judgment Day, that you refused Him because of me.

Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:53 pm to
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By most objective measures we are currently in the best time in human history to be alive.


I suppose that’s true for an atheist. Also for a communist. Certainly not for a Christian conservative who is raising children in this replica of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1435 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:54 pm to
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And by that you will be judged. Good luck telling God, on Judgment Day, that you refused Him because of me.


I refused him because he’s General Dick Head. Also he’s pretend.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:55 pm to
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I seek to affirm and believe


Well at least you're aware of your own confirmation bias. That's something, I guess.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6072 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:59 pm to
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I believe it and you can make fun of it if you want, but you cannot disprove it.

I will also tell you some of my other even crazier beliefs about a virgin having a son who walks on water, performs miracles, and even rose from the dead on the 3rd day.
I stand with you. You will get critics weighing in claiming the New Testament is corrupted, Jesus never existed, or the idea Jesus is God and rose from the dead are lies pushed by the Christian Church around Constantine’s reign. It’s their version of blind faith.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59880 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:02 pm to
“You are what you believe in. You become that which you believe you can become”
- Bhagavad Gita
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6072 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:20 pm to
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So how exactly would mist from a water canopy extend human life by literally hundreds of years?
Shield from harmful radiation? Reduce harmful mutations? Maintain a virtually perpetual growing season worldwide?

I believe the argument is something like Adam and Eve were created perfect, The Fall was a cataclysm affecting everything at an almost the genomic level. Life spans declined. The Flood destroyed the remaining favorable environment etc. Life spans continued downward stabilizing at the proverbial three score and ten. Or something like that.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59880 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:29 pm to
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Shield from harmful radiation? Reduce harmful mutations? Maintain a virtually perpetual growing season worldwide?

I believe the argument is something like Adam and Eve were created perfect, The Fall was a cataclysm affecting everything at an almost the genomic level. Life spans declined. The Flood destroyed the remaining favorable environment etc. Life spans continued downward stabilizing at the proverbial three score and ten. Or something like that.


Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1435 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:30 pm to
[quote]Shield from harmful radiation? Reduce harmful mutations? Maintain a virtually perpetual growing season worldwide? [/quote

Doesn’t shielding from radiation (presumably originating from the sun?) preclude a perpetual growing season?
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
9442 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:45 pm to
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Ask him about demonic possession.

You don’t believe in this?
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:49 pm to
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Believing in Christ has nothing to do with Young Earth Creationism. You can believe in Christ and still recognize facts and evidence instead having to jump through hoops to believe observably false things. Theistic Evolution is a perfectly fine thing. YEC is not just false, it is objectively false and offensive.


Well, Jesus begs to differ with your first statement; as he quotes directly from Genesis 1:27…

Mark 10:6 (NASB95): “But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.

It seems as though Jesus confirmed the authority of Genesis.

Genesis 1:5 (NASB95): God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

The word “day” is used over 400 times in the Bible- and every one of them means a literal, 24hour day.

Genesis 1:25–27 (NASB95): God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
26 ?Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Seems straightforward to me. No mention of single celled amoebas “evolving” into every single form of life on the planet.

If anything, the proponents of theistic evolution are the ones jumping through hoops- in an embarrassing attempt to gain the approval of their secular counterparts.
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
9442 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:51 pm to
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However, Catholic, but not in any way religious.

WAT
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:53 pm to
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Seems straightforward to me. No mention of single celled amoebas “evolving” into every single form of life on the planet.


Where in the bible did it talk about the WiFi you're using to post in this thread right now?
Posted by BamaSaint
Mobile, Al
Member since Mar 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:07 pm to
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The word “day” is used over 400 times in the Bible- and every one of them means a literal, 24hour day.


How can a "literal, 24hour day" exist when the Sun and Moon weren't created until the 4th day?
You make this easy bud
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