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re: Ark Encounter in Kentucky (mostly not travel-related)
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:36 pm to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:36 pm to Mo Jeaux
I was responding to the comment "it wasn't possible", and there is plenty of evidence it was. Saying something isn't possible, is what you say when there are no facts that could in fact mean it was possible, that is what I am saying. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Many stories like to Ballard's discovery as a possible sign of the Biblical flood. Here's one from the Washington Post, LINK
You could also read about it from a Christian perspective, but I doubt those who refute the possibility would feel compelled to.
I understand those who don't want to believe what is taught in Scripture, and that is their choice. Carry on.
Many stories like to Ballard's discovery as a possible sign of the Biblical flood. Here's one from the Washington Post, LINK
You could also read about it from a Christian perspective, but I doubt those who refute the possibility would feel compelled to.
I understand those who don't want to believe what is taught in Scripture, and that is their choice. Carry on.
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:36 pm to Fun Bunch
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Is RobbBobb a Bijon alter?????
I don't think so. Bijon seemed like a somewhat happy person. RobbBobb strikes me as being miserable.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:38 pm to kywildcatfanone
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there is plenty of evidence it was.
But there isn't. That's the point that we were trying to make.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:40 pm to kywildcatfanone
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I was responding to the comment "it wasn't possible", and there is plenty of evidence it was.
Your WaPo article once again links the Black Sea flood, which no one is denying as a possibility.
What is this evidence that the entire Earth was flooded at any time in Human history?
You didn't provide any. No one is denying there have been MAJOR regional floods throughout history. There is ample proof of this, and it has long been theorized that the Med/Black Sea flood 7-8k years ago could have been a basis for the Noah story.
But a worldwide flood, covering the entire earth in water, in the past 10k years, did not happen. It is not possible. For many, many, many reasons.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:44 pm to Mo Jeaux
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But there isn't. That's the point that we were trying to make.
You dont have proof that it did not happen. Were you there? No, none of us were and thats the point she was trying to make. You can go by your non-biblical beliefs and we will go by our biblical beliefs.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:47 pm to Dawgirl
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You dont have proof that it did not happen.
That isn't how proof or arguments work. You don't have proof that a tea kettle isn't rotating around Uranus.
Its on those who say something exists to prove that it does.
There is simply no evidence whatsoever of a world wide flood, or the true nature of the Noah tale. In fact, literally every data point we have points to it being not real.
It is, like most of the Old Testament, an allegorical tale to learn lessons from.
That does not take away from the Truth of the New Testament, if you are so inclined.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:49 pm to kywildcatfanone
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I understand those who don't want to believe what is taught in Scripture, and that is their choice.
Has nothing to do with wanting or not wanting to believe, and belief isn't a choice either. You're either convinced of something or you're not. I can't choose to believe in the flood story any more than you can choose to believe in leprechauns.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:49 pm to Fun Bunch
So if I read your comment right, are you now suggesting that the scripture of the New Testament isnt true?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:50 pm to Dawgirl
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You dont have proof that it did not happen. Were you there? No, none of us were and thats the point she was trying to make. You can go by your non-biblical beliefs and we will go by our biblical beliefs.
There is no evidence that the Earth flooded. In fact, there is evidence that it did not. There is evidence of regional flooding from around the biblical timeframe, much of it severe.
When someone says that the entire Earth didn't flood, you shouldn't say that there is evidence that it did, and then post links to articles that don't support your statement.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:52 pm to concrete_tiger
This is the best thread in years. Extremely thankful this wasn't moved to the travel board
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:52 pm to Dawgirl
You read it incorrectly. I'm not sure how though, its incredibly clear.
I said conceding that most of the Old Testament is allegorical does not take away from the Truth of the New Testament. If you believe in the Truth of the New Testament.
Almost everything in the OT being stories to help people live better lives with no basis in reality does not take away from Jesus's word.
I thought that was pretty clear.
I said conceding that most of the Old Testament is allegorical does not take away from the Truth of the New Testament. If you believe in the Truth of the New Testament.
Almost everything in the OT being stories to help people live better lives with no basis in reality does not take away from Jesus's word.
I thought that was pretty clear.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:53 pm to Dawgirl
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So if I read your comment right
You did not
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:55 pm to Dawgirl
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So if I read your comment right, are you now suggesting that the scripture of the New Testament isnt true?
I think I found the problem, you’re functionally illiterate.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:00 pm to FutureMikeVIII
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:05 pm to Fun Bunch
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It is, like most of the Old Testament, an allegorical tale to learn lessons from.
That does not take away from the Truth of the New Testament, if you are so inclined.
I'm not necessarily in agreement, nor disagreement with you on any of this. I don't get caught up in arguments over how God does His thing. It's actually interesting to see people volley back and forth on these questions,but the answers here are inconsequential to my own faith.
That said, and now that the cat's outta the proverbial bag, what denomination are you a part of (or none at all)? I'm genuinely curious to see how different factions of Christianity view these topics.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:07 pm to Dawgirl
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So if I read your comment right, are you now suggesting that the scripture of the New Testament isnt true?
You didn't read it right.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:13 pm to S1C EM
I think it is better to keep the focus on Science and logic of the Noah tale than going down deep religious rabbit holes. Those threads get anchored.
However, Catholic, but not in any way religious.
However, Catholic, but not in any way religious.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:20 pm to Fun Bunch
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That isn't how proof or arguments work. You don't have proof that a tea kettle isn't rotating around Uranus.
I can state, without a single doubt, that there is no tea kettle anywhere near my anus
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:25 pm to Fun Bunch
What the frick is going on in here?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:26 pm to Fun Bunch
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But a worldwide flood, covering the entire earth in water,
A worldwide flood... before people comprehended the world beyond the horizon, no less. A world where people as recently as the 1400s were still discovering new stuff.
Where did the water come from? Where did it go?
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