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re: Are you bullish on the future of the USA?

Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:25 pm to
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It will improve after the Boomers are gone


FIFY
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:31 pm to
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It will improve after the Boomers and Millenials are gone


FIFY

The Boomers being gone is only one half of the problem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259992 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:36 pm to
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We're screwed until the baby-boomers start to die off. Once we lose that voting group, utopia.
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FIFY


Theyre not enough left for ya?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
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How exactly is it getting shittier every year?



- The political divide is as worse as it has been in my lifetime, with little prospect of improving anytime soon.
- The legislative branch over the past 30-40 years has signed over more and more power to the executive branch of government.
- We have fewer and fewer legislators capable of drafting legislation and spend a bulk of their time in DC fund raising and campaigning for their next election. As a result the bulk of our legislation is written by special interests. As a result special interests have effectively taken over our government and interests on both sides fuel my first point to maintain that power.
- We are in the midst of a massive population shift from rural areas to urban and suburban areas that our lawmakers have ignored. As a result, in 10-20 years, the majority of our lawmakers will come from areas that a minority of the population lives. That's not how our government was designed to work.
- The wealth gap continues to widen, and many of the stopgaps put in place in the great depression have slowly been eroded over the last 30 years.


I could go on, but that's a start. The bottom line is that because our country is so politically divided, it's ill equipped to tackle a lot of the systemic and societal problems that it currently faces. On the micro level, on a day to day basis, things are great and look fine. Take a step back and look at things at a macro level, and there are many festering issues that need addressing.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:44 pm to
Boomers generally love exuberant government spending and having the government deeply involved in nearly every facet of our lives, so no.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:45 pm to
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We are in the midst of a massive population shift from rural areas to urban and suburban areas that our lawmakers have ignored. As a result, in 10-20 years, the majority of our lawmakers will come from areas that a minority of the population lives. That's not how our government was designed to work.


lolwut?

You're off about 180 degrees on this one. The entire reason Trump won because large swaths of the rural population in this country felt shite on and ignored by politicians who only focused on urban areas and urban issues.


This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Boomers generally love exuberant government spending and having the government deeply involved in nearly every facet of our lives, so no.



True. However Millenials are even worse.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:58 pm to
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True. However Millenials are even worse.


Not sure if the research bares that out.

If anything I'd say on most social issues, millennials want a lot less government.

Boomers by and large are fiscally liberal and socially conservative. I don't care what boomers say, their actions over the last 30 years have done the talking.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:00 pm to
And millennials are socially and fiscally leftist.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:01 pm to
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If anything I'd say on most social issues, millennials want a lot less government.


Uhh...it wasn't boomers who started the SJW movement and outrage culture.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:01 pm to
Again, the research shows that millennials are more fiscally conservative than boomers.

Regardless, fiscally and socially left >>> fiscally left and socially right.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Uhh...it wasn't boomers who started the SJW movement and outrage culture.


You know this all started in the 70's and 80's right?

You don't remember the big PC debates back in the early 90s?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Uhh...it wasn't boomers who started the SJW movement and outrage culture.




Hippes from the 60's weren't boomers? That's news to me.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29650 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Or does it seem like everything is just going to keep getting progressively shittier with each passing year?
if we could just get rid of the rest of the Confederate statues, we'd be living in a veritable utopia
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:15 pm to
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You don't remember the big PC debates back in the early 90s?


Nothing like we have had in the past ten years. Not even close.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113900 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:19 pm to
What the frick are you talking about? People thought the country was going to go to hell in a handbasket when Obama got elected, now there are people who think the same now that Trump is in office.

The USA is bigger than one person. How is the US progressively getting shittier? You need to stop listening to whatever political shows you listen to and not pay much attention to the shite on social media.

You need to get together with your friends, have some drinks and talk about random bullshite that will make you laugh and get away from all the political bullshite you are being fed everyday.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28104 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:20 pm to
No but it may not be just specific to USA either
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Nothing like we have had in the past ten years. Not even close.





You have a very limited view of history. Civil and social unrest have been happening since our founding, and is the main reason we even have a United States of America. You may not like the causes millenials fight for, but it's no different than any other generations fights for their respective causes going all the way back to the 1700's.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53076 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:25 pm to
We have an economic system based on infinite growth to basically pay off infinite debt. I get laughed at for my peak oil opinions on this board, but I think a lack of cheap energy to run that pyramid scheme is what will bring it all down.

This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:26 pm to
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You know this all started in the 70's and 80's right? 

You don't remember the big PC debates back in the early 90s?





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