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re: Are lawyers good sales people?

Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:32 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:32 am to
No. And that is what makes the difference between successful ones and ones who are not. Some of my bosses may not be the best pure lawyers, but they are great businessmen. I have a family member who started a medical practice and it took significant financial backing and time to get his thing going. You can be a great lawyer or physician, but if you don't know how to obtain and run a business, it doesn't matter.
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 8:34 am
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:33 am to
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Judging by your other posts about work, you’re not a high end salesperson


This is pleasure, not business.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56777 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:33 am to
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This is pleasure, not business.



You're think about practicing law for pleasure? You're a sick frick.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117331 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:34 am to
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Some attorneys are shitty salesmen and shitty attorneys


Judges

quote:

Some attorneys are great at sales and mediocre attorneys


Billboard attorneys and Congressmen/State Legislators
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:35 am to
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Do you own your own company?


Yes.


How many employees do you have?
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:36 am to
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I'll do better than the PD to get your DUI reclassified.


I see.

So you pocket the 5 grand and fill out some paperwork?
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:37 am to
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How many employees do you have?


Just me and my subs. I do everything but install.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:39 am to
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You're think about practicing law for pleasure? You're a sick frick.



Col. Sanders beat up his client and started selling chicken for a living. Just let that sink in for a minute.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:40 am to
You are the only salesman at a company you own?

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I've always considered myself a high end salesman


My definition & your definition are different
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:41 am to
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I've always considered myself a high end salesman


We know
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Member since Jun 2011
2717 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:42 am to
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Are lawyers good people?


FIFY.

And the answer is NO
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:42 am to
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My definition & your definition are different



I didnt always own my own company. I've sold many different things. The reason Im so good though is my listening skills. I work quickly after they tell me what they want, present the estimate, and ask for the sale.
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:44 am to
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We know


You need some flooring?
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17243 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:45 am to
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I've always considered myself a high end salesman


Yeah,,,,flooring salesmen are always regarded as the upper echelon of the sales hierarchy.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:46 am to
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I've always considered myself a high end salesman


quote:

Mud_Till_May


You’re even lying to yourself, you’d probably make a good lawyer
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:48 am to
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You’re even lying to yourself, you’d probably make a good lawyer


If you don't believe in yourself, your client wont either. I have a track record though. Experience matters more in the sales game.

Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:50 am to
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Yeah,,,,flooring salesmen are always regarded as the upper echelon of the sales hierarchy.


Flooring is the only product you don't have to manufacture or install. Other people do it for you. You just change money.

Its a numbers game. Very interesting when you are able to charge for other peoples product and services. Then make money off if it with a pen and paper.
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 8:51 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
27175 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:52 am to
The greatest salesmen will sell fear or hope.

Lawyers regularly get to do both depending upon what seat in the courtroom the potential client would be.

It is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481279 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:52 am to
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Are lawyers good sales people?

lots of lawyers are, and those are typically you're most successful lawyers (financially)

lots of lawyers are TERRIBLE at selling, though
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 8:53 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481279 posts
Posted on 7/30/20 at 8:55 am to
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You can be a great lawyer or physician, but if you don't know how to obtain and run a business, it doesn't matter.

the only super successful lawyers i know who are not great at selling got established in a firm and became known for being amazing lawyers that way and get brought in on big cases or are selling points for the attorneys in the firm who can sell

even in your civil defense firms, you have to have the partners who can get (and more importantly, keep) business
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