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re: Are gun owners who leave pistols in their car partially responsible for gun violence?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:55 pm to hubreb
Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:55 pm to hubreb
A guy I used to work with had his gun stolen from his truck
Filed a police report & sometime after got a call saying it had been found but he couldn’t get it because it was used in a murder
He ended up killing himself, there were other issues but he was very bothered by it & from what I was told felt partially responsible
Filed a police report & sometime after got a call saying it had been found but he couldn’t get it because it was used in a murder
He ended up killing himself, there were other issues but he was very bothered by it & from what I was told felt partially responsible
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:55 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I should be able to keep a whole rack of fricking guns in my unlocked car. This topic really chaps my arse. I cannot believe that humans are allowed to make it to adulthood thinking theft is acceptable. I understand the world is full of shitty people, but this is America. We shouldn't allow shitty people to be shitty
Yeah you should be able to but you’re right, this is America. People are pieces of shite and shittier by the day. This country stopped being Mayberry a long arse time ago.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:55 pm to tigervetatsea
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around 25% of car break-ins result in a stolen gun
highly doubtful. seriously doubt 25% of people carry guns.
Yeah, there's no way that figure is even close to accurate.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:55 pm to hubreb
Only if they leave their doors unlocked and/or the gun in plain sight.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:56 pm to LSUJML
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A guy I used to work with had his gun stolen from his truck
Filed a police report & sometime after got a call saying it had been found but he couldn’t get it because it was used in a murder
He ended up killing himself, there were other issues but he was very bothered by it & from what I was told felt partially responsible
Do you know if he left it in plain sight with his doors unlocked?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:56 pm to VanRIch
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. If I leave my gun on a park bench, I’m incredibly irresponsible but I’m not in the slightest responsible
Fact.
Social engineers just want to transfer responsibility for criminal action from perp to everyone else for political reasoning.
Remember, Kyle Rittenhouse was a household name, most people can't name the guy who attacked him.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:16 pm to rltiger
I leave my gun in a lock box tethered to and under my seat. Constitutional Carry should be allowed and then this would not be a big issue.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:23 pm to BigGreenTiger
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I guess 25% of rape is a womans fault for wearing revealing outfits or whatever
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that is one hell of a stretch to compare the two.
It should be 100% on the women for walking around with a vagina, just like the guy sticking a gun in his car.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:31 pm to blacroix
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I leave my gun in a lock box tethered to and under my seat
A more experienced thief will have a way to cut the tether but this is a decent option.
I parked in a motel with my F-150. The guy knew how to open it by twisting my lock. No damage, other than the lock, and nothing taken. What did they think I was dumb enough to leave in my truck.
For me this meant that guns out of trucks in motels is a pretty lucrative pursuit
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Remember, Kyle Rittenhouse was a household name, most people can't name the guy who attacked him.
I just refer to the "victims" as Stone Cold and Tony Hawk.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:36 pm to hubreb
Are trailer parks partially responsible for tornadoes??
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:40 pm to hubreb
Are people who have nice things partially responsible for theft?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:45 pm to hubreb
I breezed through the thread, but for all the people that think there’s nothing wrong with leaving a gun in your vehicle:
The bottom line is that thieves know people leave guns in their vehicles, and they target vehicles for that specific purpose. I do not think that gun owners should be held accountable for stolen firearms, because sometimes there are reasons for different situations. It is, however, terribly irresponsible, and you are contributing to gun violence if a firearm is stolen from an unsecured vehicle. There are plenty of pretty secure options that will at least slow a “smash and grab” thief down. Hiding it is not enough, these thieves might seem stupid but they know where your hiding spots are. Even with a safe in my vehicles, I don’t store guns in there unless I have to.
If you plan to have a gun in your vehicle, at least lock it up and don’t make it easy for criminals to get. We are fortunately free in many states to store guns in our vehicles however we please, but that doesn’t make it right. If you don’t think that making it easy for a gang banger to get a hold of your weapon makes you a contributor to gun violence, you are lying to yourself. It’s even worse if you have a ton of stickers all over your vehicle that basically say “there’s a gun in here.”
The bottom line is that thieves know people leave guns in their vehicles, and they target vehicles for that specific purpose. I do not think that gun owners should be held accountable for stolen firearms, because sometimes there are reasons for different situations. It is, however, terribly irresponsible, and you are contributing to gun violence if a firearm is stolen from an unsecured vehicle. There are plenty of pretty secure options that will at least slow a “smash and grab” thief down. Hiding it is not enough, these thieves might seem stupid but they know where your hiding spots are. Even with a safe in my vehicles, I don’t store guns in there unless I have to.
If you plan to have a gun in your vehicle, at least lock it up and don’t make it easy for criminals to get. We are fortunately free in many states to store guns in our vehicles however we please, but that doesn’t make it right. If you don’t think that making it easy for a gang banger to get a hold of your weapon makes you a contributor to gun violence, you are lying to yourself. It’s even worse if you have a ton of stickers all over your vehicle that basically say “there’s a gun in here.”
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:48 pm to 75503Tiger
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For me this meant that guns out of trucks in motels is a pretty lucrative pursuit
Yep. And most people don’t realize they’re often legally allowed to bring their gun inside a motel room, even without a permit.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:54 pm to jkylejohnson
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pisses me off to be honest. Don’t leave your money or guns in your car. Ever. No matter where you live.
I agree that you shouldn't leave your gun in the car overnight. But what about when you have to temporarily enter a building that doesn't allow firearms?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:56 pm to Tupelo
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I agree that you shouldn't leave your gun in the car overnight. But what about when you have to temporarily enter a building that doesn't allow firearms?
Sometimes you have to leave it in your car temporarily. A lock box can reduce the risk of it walking off, especially in broad daylight.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:02 pm to Tupelo
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I agree that you shouldn't leave your gun in the car overnight. But what about when you have to temporarily enter a building that doesn't allow firearms?
I’m referring to people leaving them in cars (especially unlocked) in or near cities mostly. Our neighborhood and the couple nicer neighborhoods nearby have Facebook pages (kinda like watch pages) and it seems about weekly/biweekly that someone is complaining to the masses on there about having their guns/wallet/purses stolen from vehicle and most of the time they admit the vehicle was left unlocked. Feels like you’re asking for it in some cases.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:04 pm to slacker130
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At what level is the criminal 100% responsible?
100% of the time the criminal is responsible for stealing
Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:06 pm to Pettifogger
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But it is still incredibly reckless to do and puts guns in the hand of our enemies.
Can't bring my gun to work. I carry a gun in my vehicle, stored in my console, for a reason. My other option is to leave it at home. At that point, not a huge reason to even have a concealed weapon for personal protection away from home
If someone steals my gun out of my locked vehicle while I'm at work, then that's on the person who broke into my locked car and stole it, just like if they broke into my locked home and stole it.
And as to the OP's question, no, the only people responsible for gun violence are the animals committing gun violence
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:12 pm to Awesome All Day
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Your buddy is a moron! How about we put 100% of the responsibility on the POS that broke into the car
Would like to hear the arguments from the 4 idiots that down voted this post
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