Started By
Message

re: Are data centers bad for local communities?

Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36984 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:46 am to
quote:

It's just another wealth transfer to the biggest corporations in the world from the middle class


How so?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41405 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Make these companies build their own power plants and figure out how to cool them without excess water usage and Scruffy is all on board.


I agree with the power plant part completely.

As far as water, don’t allow them to pull ground water or lake/pond water. Force them to use river water from rivers like the Mississippi, Atchafalaya, Ohio, etc

These rivers have ample water that can be used for cooling very easily with very little by product or pollution.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170683 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:51 am to
quote:


How so?

We're subsidizing the build out of the utilities necessary for these things to exist in the form of higher electricity costs

They should be incurring those costs, not the local residents.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20227 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:53 am to
This would be a non-issue if dumbass boomers weren't scared of nuclear.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296626 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:54 am to
quote:


They should be incurring those costs, not the local residents.


Yep.

Most also are very stealthy about their ownership and operation. I get the sense these are being rubber stamped and not going through proper channels.

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148289 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:55 am to
It can’t get much worse in 90% of the small communities in the south. Most are barely on life support
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36984 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:56 am to
quote:

We're subsidizing the build out of the utilities necessary for these things to exist in the form of higher electricity costs


Are you? I’m pretty sure meta is building their own sub station, and I thought there was some rumor they might even be purchasing Cleco or someone.

I don’t know, I’m asking
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20227 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Are you? I’m pretty sure meta is building their own sub station, and I thought there was some rumor they might even be purchasing Cleco or someone.

I don’t know, I’m asking
I'm sure they're getting plenty of tax credits to do so if that's the case.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36984 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:58 am to
quote:

I'm sure they're getting plenty of tax credits to do so if that's the case.


Tax credits aren’t the same thing as the taxpayer paying for something
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296626 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:05 pm to
quote:



Google, AMazon and Microsoft are working with several energy companies to develop SMR's (Small Nuclear Reactors)


These will be revolutionary. We would have been balls to the wall on nuclear long ago.


I suspect a lot of speedbumps between now and when we all sit at home and collect UBI from these data centers.


Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170683 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Are you?

We all are

And I probably shouldn't have said local residents. You don't need to live near one to be paying higher electricity costs
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36984 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

We all are


I’m not sure you are, and it sounds like you don’t actually know either.

You claimed it and I’m trying to figure it out if it’s true or not, because it could be. But you aren’t providing any actually information
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76312 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:15 pm to
That is pretty much true of any industry.

The risk you take with handing out tax breaks without performance incentives.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12648 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

If for some reason they shut down the data center, at worse we will be left with practically free power plants that we can use to sell power to the grid.

But the liberal loonies want to spin that, stating we will be on the hook for power plants. Like they would just sit there idle.

“Practically free” to whom?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170683 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:35 pm to
quote:


I’m not sure you are, and it sounds like you don’t actually know either.

I'm sure. I'm not really worried about what you know or don't know if we're being honest.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36984 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

I'm sure. I'm not really worried about what you know or don't know if we're being honest


I was trying to learn something, but you clearly have nothing to teach and just talking out of your arse
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100492 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:44 pm to
Yes. After initial construction jobs they create very little in local jobs. The biggest ones require 30-50 people on staff. Small ones less than 15.

They can use up a ton of electricity and water leading to much higher rates locally

There are a ton of noise and environmental concerns also
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100492 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Water does not reproduce itself.


Wut

There’s the exact same amount of water on earth today as there was millions of years ago. You can deplete the local source of water, but the water doesn’t go away.

These centers should have to do what many farms are having to do around here to protect the aquifer levels by building a tail water recovery reservoir that catches the used water. Instead of constantly pumping groundwater, you catch the excess water and store it and reuse the water and only pump groundwater when necessary
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43927 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Yes.

Their electricity and water consumption is insane.

Make these companies build their own power plants and figure out how to cool them without excess water usage and Scruffy is all on board.


Entergy is building a power plant next to the Meta datacenter in Richland Parish. The power plant will only be used to power the data center. With as high as the water table is in north Louisiana access to water will not be an issue.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
6693 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:13 pm to
Yes
first pageprev pagePage 5 of 6Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram