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re: Appraisals: what a crock of sh¡t...

Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:24 am to
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19099 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:24 am to
Wrong
Posted by TigerGM
Member since Nov 2014
1125 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:35 am to
You’ve apparently never bought a house. Let’s say you default on the house. The bank has to sell it so they get their money back. If they give you more money than it’s worth and you can’t pay for it anymore, bank takes it away and sells at auction. They aren’t giving YOU more money than it’s worth. Yeah. If you have cash and pay for entire house yourself then yeah you can pay $1MM for 250k house.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:38 am to
If banks lent money by your logic I’d be extremely wealthy with horrible credit.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14564 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:40 am to
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If person A is asking $350k for their house and person B agrees to that price then the bank appraiser comes back and says that the house is only worth $325k, that’s inherently incorrect. Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. In this case person B is willing to buy the house for $350k and therefore it’s worth is $350k.


If the buyer has to finance the house it is only worth what the lender thinks it is worth. If the buyer doesn’t have to finance the house then you are correct and you will not need an appraisal.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 5:23 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26429 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:41 am to
Our house is appraising on Tuesday.

VA loan.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:11 am to
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Our house is appraising on Tuesday.

VA loan


Yeah prayers buddy. Many sellers won’t accept offer if going VA, can’t say I blame them. Great product for buyers though.
Posted by dawgsjlw
shite hole with your momma
Member since Sep 2014
826 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:51 am to
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If I am loaning the purchaser the money, then I get to decide how much it is worth.
No actually you don't. If anything, you can decide on how much money you want to loan out, but you(bank) can't say a house is so and so and expect everyone else in the world to agree with it.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42967 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:58 am to
Dont buy a house with an inflated asking price if you arent willing to pony up the difference OP.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18864 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:59 am to
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However, I don't think that the appraiser should be told what the contract amount is before doing the appraisal.


I refinanced a few years ago. When the appraiser came, I was cleaning a turkey I killed that morning. After talking turkey hunting for a while and figuring out we had some mutual friends, he just asked me "how much do you need the house to appraise for?"
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93566 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:01 am to
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Many sellers won’t accept offer if going VA, can’t say I blame them


Lol what?

And OP is not very bright if this is being financed
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
5316 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:20 am to
Except the bank is paying for it by giving said person a gigantic loan.

If you want to borrow $200k from me but what you're buying is only worth $175k. Why would I give you money I'll probably never ge back
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3656 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:24 am to
Person B should put 20% ($70K) down anyway so the bank would only finance $280K, so it doesn't matter.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3865 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:27 am to
The OP has no idea how buying a house works for most.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
6023 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:28 am to
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The house may be solid as a rock or about to fall down. The appraiser doesn't know and it doesn't figure in to his number.


This is why you pay a licensed home inspector to inspect the home. Usually comes with guarantees and warranties (at least mine did) for the roof, foundation, appliances, etc.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15809 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:32 am to
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Let me preface this by saying I am neither buying, selling, or refinancing a home. And this opinion applies to appraisals when an offer has been made and accepted.

If person A is asking $350k for their house and person B agrees to that price then the bank appraiser comes back and says that the house is only worth $325k, that’s inherently incorrect. Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. In this case person B is willing to buy the house for $350k and therefore it’s worth is $350k.

/random sunday evening rant.


Your whole rant goes out the window when you consider that it's the bank buying the house. They have the cash and they are willing to pay 325K. If they person wanting to purchase the house from the bank is willing to kick in the 25K difference than all's well in wacko land.
Posted by Eric Stratton
Faber College
Member since Mar 2015
2055 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:37 am to
A $350,000 cash deal with no Lender involved...... now that's an OT Baller.

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56173 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:37 am to
quote:

If person A is asking $350k for their house and person B agrees to that price then the bank appraiser comes back and says that the house is only worth $325k, that’s inherently incorrect. Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it


housing markets do what they do based on demand...sometimes appraisals are behind market conditions

that said, Florida went up 75% in 5 years and we all know what happened..

"worth what someone is willing to pay for it"

but is it or was it?



Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:55 am to
quote:

the bank appraiser comes back and says that the house is only worth $325k, that’s inherently incorrect. Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. In this case person B is willing to buy the house for $350k and therefore it’s worth is $350k.

The BUYER can still pay 350K for the home. He just has to come up with the difference.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88707 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:58 am to
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This is why you pay a licensed home inspector to inspect the home.


really doesn't mean anything, inspection just defines the state of the dwelling

quote:

Usually comes with guarantees and warranties (at least mine did) for the roof, foundation, appliances, etc.


with a million little escape clauses for them to not have any liability
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:02 pm to
That means it iss the value to that person. Doesn't mean it is the market value
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 12:03 pm
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