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Apple to Analyze Recovered iPhone of Florida Teens Lost at Sea

Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3656 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:53 pm
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Apple has agreed to examine a recovered iPhone at the center of a dispute between the families of two Florida teens who went missing during a fishing trip last summer (via ABC News).

In July 2015, 14-year-old Austin Stephanos and his friend and neighbor Perry Cohen, also 14, launched a single-engine vessel on a fishing expedition off the coast of Palm Beach County, Florida. The boys never returned, and despite a Coast Guard-led eight-day search of the Atlantic covering 50,000 nautical miles, their bodies were never found.

Last month, their abandoned boat was discovered by a Norwegian crew 100 miles off the coast of Bermuda, along with a locked box inside of which was Stephanos' heavily water-damaged and inoperable iPhone 6.

Cohen had borrowed Stephanos' phone to communicate with his family the day they disappeared, and the Cohens wanted the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission to treat the phone as evidence in an open missing persons case, but the agency insisted on returning the phone to Stephanos' family, according to a local television report.

Cohen's mother, Pamela Cohen, sued Stephanos' family to have the iPhone returned to the state, to allow her access to its contents, and if necessary, have the phone turned over to law enforcement as evidence in a possible criminal investigation.



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Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11051 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Cohen's mother, Pamela Cohen, sued Stephanos' family to have the iPhone returned to the state, to allow her access to its contents, and if necessary, have the phone turned over to law enforcement as evidence in a possible criminal investigation.


Sounds like she's handling this well.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:02 pm to
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Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8749 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:07 pm to
Damn. I hope one of their friends can delete their search history first.
Posted by dred24
In the south
Member since Nov 2006
1304 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:12 pm to
I wonder what Apple means by 'examine'? Surely they won't get through the passcode if they wouldn't help with the terrorist.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5910 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:16 pm to
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I wonder what Apple means by 'examine'? Surely they won't get through the passcode if they wouldn't help with the terrorist.


They can certainly recover data. I think the issue with the terrorist's phone was that some agent changed the passcode and that did something where they wouldn't unlock it. The parents technically own that phone so there is no reason why they shouldn't find any data and give it to the parents.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20735 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:17 pm to
quote:


I wonder what Apple means by 'examine'? Surely they won't get through the passcode if they wouldn't help with the terrorist.



Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132620 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:27 pm to
It is interesting how apple jumps to help on this but not legit terrorism.

I am all for apple protecting privacy but they chose a shitty situation to make a point of it.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

They can certainly recover data. I think the issue with the terrorist's phone was that some agent changed the passcode and that did something where they wouldn't unlock it.

No. Just... no.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:47 pm to
So is the phone inoperable or not? If it is inoperable they won't be able to get to its contents. If they can, don't call it inoperable.

That is all.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73770 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

I am all for apple protecting privacy but they chose a shitty situation to make a point of it.


Consider the boys weren't adults and the parents can still supply consent.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10514 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:52 pm to
Oh my god
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132620 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:06 pm to
Great post
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132620 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:09 pm to
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Consider the boys weren't adults and the parents can still supply consent.


I was talking about the terrorist thing

But in this case are the boys not entitled to their privacy even though underage? The parents might own the phone but do they own the thoughts/content on there?

A 15 year old girl can get an abortion/birth control without her parents consent but the "private" contents of a phone are fair game?
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31596 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:16 pm to
Cosmo, are you sure the scenario is the same? Nobody's fricked up the phone by putting in wrong passwords? Apple is just being hypocritical ..?
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:19 pm to
Under the assumption the parents own the phone, I would say they have every right to have apple attempt to do this and that it is in no way shape or form the same as the terrorist situation.

Civil liberties and parenting are two different issues altogether.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2924 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:45 pm to
If I'm ever found dead, I hope Apple doesn't unlock my iphone for my parents.

Eta: english
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:49 pm to
I think you mean "when" you're found dead.

Eta: do you speak it, motherfricker?
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76148 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:59 pm to
Not to get too deep into semantics but not all who die are "found dead". Some deaths are witnessed (as in an ER) as they happen in real time.

I freely grant you (what I believe to be) your intended point that everyone dies.

So one could die and not be found dead (until a court or other legal authority adjudicates them to be dead). Even then they're not "found" dead or to be dead, they are more correctly ruled to be dead.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:03 pm to
I agree with everything you just typed. I just happen to know tigeralum06 in the "real" world and was fricking with him.
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