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re: Apparently the US Navy has forgot how to sail

Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:35 pm to
As of six years ago, they put more emphasis into cleaning the ship than being situationally ready. The chiefs would climb on a footstool to reach the top of a pipe and see if there was any dust. shite was a waste of time and it prepared no one for anything. I really wish I was joking or being sarcastic.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:45 pm to
CPO is a SNCO rank, right? That sounds like typical SNCO shite.
Posted by Ellis Dee
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Training money has been diverted to more important things like sexual reassignment surgery and lactation stations.


and cleaning stations. if even half of the amount of time was spent training as opposed to cleaning the same shite over and over again, this wouldn't have been an issue
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:53 pm to
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As of six years ago, they put more emphasis into cleaning the ship than being situationally ready. The chiefs would climb on a footstool to reach the top of a pipe and see if there was any dust. shite was a waste of time and it prepared no one for anything. I really wish I was joking or being sarcastic.



Shite man, when we were in port we would would meet every Friday at 4:45am to "field day" the entire ship. That was twenty years ago.

Chiefs have always acted that way. ..

rule #1 of the Navy: Never make your chief look bad amongst his peers.

And Jones, That's a hard rule. I think it's even in the UCMJ
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:55 pm to
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CPO is a SNCO rank, right? That sounds like typical SNCO shite.



CPO's are E-7's and above

E7: CPO
E8: Senior CPO
E9: Master CPO

COB: Chief of the Boat (highest ranked enlisted on ship)
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:57 pm to
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and cleaning stations. if even half of the amount of time was spent training as opposed to cleaning the same shite over and over again, this wouldn't have been an issue



We rarely trained in port but would run drills 3x/week while at sea. Mostly fire/flooding/war scenarios. Never collision avoidance scenarios.

The only in port training I remember was a "repel boarders" training just prior to going on deployment.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:03 pm to
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hey are dealing with issues of sexual harassment and diversity that the older generations didn't know anything about.


Sorry Admiral, I was going to learn basic seamanship but all that "don't rape or be racist" stuff took up all the space in my head.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:05 pm to
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Quick question....how hard is it to throw it in full power reverse? If my boat is about to run into something, I put it in reverse


Putting it in reverse is why the Titanic hit the iceberg. It's not that simple to avoid things in the water.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:11 pm to
The recent collisions were all abysmally stupid. For all the bridge crew involved, it sounded as if none of them could handle the beginning of a bass rodeo take off.

Diversity...blah. Having the inherent common sense and sense of direction to get to know a ship and how it handles is far more important.

The Navy has to return to the days of yesteryear because even with all the digital guidance, ships move through water and there are other ships out there, doing the same thing. And some of them are captained by idiots. (Leave the "some of them" ambiguous intentionally.)
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:29 pm to
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And Jones, That's a hard rule. I think it's even in the UCMJ



whats a hard rule?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:54 pm to
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Chiefs have always acted that way. ..

rule #1 of the Navy: Never make your chief look bad amongst his peers.


My chief was a douchebag and I had zero respect for him. He made our lives suck, so I didn't care if he looked bad in front of his peers.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 5:34 pm to
The navy went soft after tailhook and that scandal forced them to let women in combat ships. It’s been all down hill since then
Posted by Poops McDoober
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Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 5:34 pm to
The US Navy was the one responsible for the last major accident in China and there is no law of tonnage because you can't say "hey, how heavy are you? Okay, I'll turn." On the radio. It just doesn't work that way.
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 5:42 pm to
You have one job...
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 5:47 pm to
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Sorry Admiral, I was going to learn basic seamanship but all that "don't rape or be racist" stuff took up all the space in my head.



It's not about taking up space in their head. It's about the training time lost to "mandatory training" centered around these subjects.

I was fortunate as a commander to have a boss who prioritized training on the equipment. Even with this, my soldiers got maybe a week's worth of hands-on time with their SATCOM gear a month. If I was really lucky.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:15 pm to
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"repel boarders"


Dive?
Posted by starsandstripes
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:30 pm to
We all know how this will play out - junior officers and a few mid grade officers will pay the price. The admirals and captains that allowed it to get to this point will face no consequences.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:43 pm to
The 7th Fleet commander was relieved of his command

LINK

The head of surface forces was sent into early retirement and will likely lose a star.

LINK
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:58 pm to
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Troubling US Navy review finds widespread shortfalls in basic seamanship


Uh maybe before learning basic seamanship, they could start getting rid of the fat asses everywhere.

There's so many fat people in the military it's so disgusting.
Posted by starsandstripes
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:00 pm to
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The 7th Fleet commander was relieved of his command

LINK

The head of surface forces was sent into early retirement and will likely lose a star.

LINK



Yes, but I'm talking about those that let the training suffer to begin with. That's the root of the problem.
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