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re: Apollo 11: July 20, 1969 - Forty-Nine Years Ago, perhaps Mankind's Greatest Journey

Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:34 am to
Posted by JPinLondon
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:34 am to
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Hard for me to believe that the 1st man to walk on the moon...when taking the first initial of his last (or middle) name and spelling his first name backwards spell "Alien."

It's also hard for me to belive that the 2nd man to walk on the moon...has a mother who's maiden name was "Moon."

Finally...Hard for me to believe we communicated from the moon when I can't get cell phone signal near Memorial Stadium.

Perhaps man's greatest accomplishmentioned is convincing so many we went to the moon...and returned safely in a vessel that would fall apart if I strapped it in the back of my truck and drove to Houston.


This has to be a troll, right? Only the wackiest of the wacky hoaxers purport "name-spelling-conspiracy" nonsense.
So I won't address the "Neil A." = "alien" and so on, because I am certain a fellow Plauche would not believe such crap.


Regarding the "returned safely in a vessel that would fall apart if I strapped it in the back of my truck and drove to Houston"...

You do know that the USS Hornet plucked the Apollo 11 Command Module Columbia out of the Pacific, and transported it to the west coast, and eventually it did ride in a truck (or perhaps via air-cargo transport) to Washington DC and is at the Natl. Air & Space Museum.
>>> Thus disproving your contention. So again, please tell me this is a troll.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:39 am to
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As far as manned space travel, best i can tell a robot/probe can return me a lot more data, safely, than a whole crew of people. I'm not sure what there is to currently gain by sending people further and further away, aside from bragging rights.



Very unpopular opinion on here but is 100% true. There is very little reason to send people into space to do space exploration anymore (certainly without advances in propulsion technology to make it cheaper). Unmanned gives a much larger scientific bang for your buck. Computers and robotics have advanced to the point that they can do the things humans used to need to do and they don’t require life support and all of the weight that entails.
Posted by JPinLondon
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:52 am to
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Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:52 am to
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These were the real brains behind the space program—the astronauts were just there for TV. Hollywood told me so.
I think the bigger story that needs to be told is how Minnie went from cooking and cleaning for folks in Jackson, Mississippi to working for NASA.

I am guessing the shite pie incident didn't come up in her background check.
Posted by fatboydave
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:05 pm to

Posted by Kentucker
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:21 pm to
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Every single "problem" that the conspiracy folks have identified can be so easily explained, if one has an open mind. The "evidence" you speak of is so easily debunked. Its hard to believe you people really exist.


And they do exist, in large numbers. There seems to be two types of modern humans, analytical and non-analytical. And they seem to be about equal in numbers.

The former take in relevant information and process it in a logical way, coming to rational conclusions. With the latter group, the information that is taken in for processing is not limited to that which is directly related to an event.

They seem as receptive to illogical data as they are to observable information. Counterintuitively, they often override scientific data with dark, political or religious data that doesn't have any empirical support, just mostly hearsay.

I've often wondered about how this strange modern human trait evolved with such a broad application. My first thought is that our primate ancestors must have been a paranoid species that saw a predator behind every tree and tall grass clump.

Being paranoid doesn't mean that something isn't out to get you but it can certainly have a disincentivizing effect on exploration and adventure. The strong paranoia we see in so many modern humans appears to be a leftover from our days on the lower rungs of the food chain ladder.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:35 pm to
I wouldn't overthink it, there's no one on here that believes we never went to the moon just like there's not a soul alive that thinks the world is flat. People latch onto a joke and never, ever let up. There are some nutters that think it was a hoax but in the entirety of the US I'm sure you could count them on one hand, the vast majority are just people playin around.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:36 pm to
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I've often wondered about how this strange modern human trait evolved with such a broad application. My first thought is that our primate ancestors must have been a paranoid species that saw a predator behind every tree and tall grass clump.

Being paranoid doesn't mean that something isn't out to get you but it can certainly have a disincentivizing effect on exploration and adventure. The strong paranoia we see in so many modern humans appears to be a leftover from our days on the lower rungs of the food chain ladder.

This is a really interesting take on their flawed, incorrect, hard-headed thinking. Thank you for posting it so I can broaden my mind and learn a new concept.
See, hoaxers.. an open mind is a good thing.


Kentucker, in contrast to your evolution explanation, which I genuinely do find intriguing...

in my OP, I used a concept called "Cultural Vandalism" which I find a more appropriate explanation. It is not my own, but a borrowed concept. A small percentage of the population just is wrong-headed:

- if the Mona Lisa was unguarded, it wouldn't be long before it was splashed with paint and ruined
- if the Declaration of Independence was unprotected, it would soon be shredded, literally, by a vandal.
- Medal of Honor recipient M. Murphy's Memorial Destroyed

It is, unfortunately, what it is.


This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:38 pm to
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People latch onto a joke and never, ever let up. There are some nutters that think it was a hoax but in the entirety of the US I'm sure you could count them on one hand, the vast majority are just people playin around.

In my experience, both online and IRL, the jokesters are maybe 1/3 of the population of "hoaxers". The rest really do believe, deeply, that we didn't accomplish that amazing feat.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:09 pm to
You might enjoy the recent Space Race season of this podcast:

American History Tellers
Posted by JPinLondon
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:38 pm to
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Bethpage NY


1969 State of the Art, via Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation, in Bethpage, Long Island, New York:


Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:59 pm to
Anyone on here that thinks we DID NOT go to the moon is one stupid person....
Posted by dale10
The Red Stick
Member since May 2006
978 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:39 pm to
I am fascinated with the Apollo space missions. If anyone likes to read about this stuff, A man on the moon and Apollo 8 are two of the best books I have ever read.

My favorite aspect is while these astronauts were remarkably talented and super geniuses, they were all crazy as shite too. Absolutely fearless.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
14971 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:44 pm to
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My favorite aspect is while these astronauts were remarkably talented and super geniuses, they were all crazy as shite too. Absolutely fearless.

One of my favorite scenes from The Right Stuff was when one of the astronauts-to-be was on final approach for a carrier landing. Tower calls and says there are some guys here that want to talk to you about flying rockets. He replies, "Sounds dangerous. Count me in." And then lands the plane.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:59 pm to
Moon landing by far
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:16 pm to
I love cutaway pictures. Used to rent books from the library as a kid full of them and draw my own space ship/submarine/whatever pics
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:27 pm to
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Finally...Hard for me to believe we communicated from the moon when I can't get cell phone signal near Memorial Stadium.



Can't help it if your phone sucks.


Earth–Moon–Earth communication (EME), also known as moon bounce, is a radio communications technique that relies on the propagation of radio waves from an Earth-based transmitter directed via reflection from the surface of the Moon back to an Earth-based receiver.

EME Comms
Posted by farad
Member since Dec 2013
12736 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:33 pm to
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forty-nine years ago today, took One Small Step for a Man, One Giant Leap for Mankind.

I was on my way to Woodstock...and missed it...
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1495 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:33 pm to
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“Perhaps mankind’s greatest journey”

Perhaps??


I think the only thing that might rival it would be Apollo 13's successful return.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7878 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:37 pm to
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I personally think Apollo 11 was the greatest of all!


The line in the movie where someone says to the effect that it will be be our greatest failure and the response is “No, this will be our finest hour”. THAT is American exceptionism at its best !!!! We somehow need to regain that spirit.
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