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re: AP: Parents begged cops to enter school as shooting unfolded. Cops refused
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:30 am to Bronc
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:30 am to Bronc
Regardless of your job, when someone is shooting kids you jump to action. I’m sorry, but my heart strings would have taken over in that situation. I’d probably have been killed, but I would have dove that motherfricker until I dropped.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:37 am to jchamil
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Ask this question to one of the parents of a child who was killed.
Emotions aren’t going to win you in a dangerous scenario that requires logic.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:39 am to Palmetto98
Sometimes action is simply the best answer. Logic can paralyze by analyze
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:39 am to Palmetto98
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Emotions aren’t going to win you in a dangerous scenario that requires logic.
Maybe, or maybe an emotionally charged parent with balls does make a difference. Better than not trying at all when your kids are being mowed down
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:40 am to jchamil
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Maybe, or maybe an emotionally charged parent with balls does make a difference. Better than not trying at all when your kids are being mowed down
This isn’t a fricking Disney film, dear lord
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:41 am to DolphinDaddy
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Regardless of your job, when someone is shooting kids you jump to action. I’m sorry, but my heart strings would have taken over in that situation. I’d probably have been killed, but I would have dove that motherfricker until I dropped.
And as it appears at the moment, the cops were actively restraining families from trying to do just that, which, I get. What I dont get is the cops not going in to confront the shooter, and according to one witness, now lying about that.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:42 am to Palmetto98
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This isn’t a fricking Disney film, dear lord
Yeah, it's real life with real parents and real children.
Also, what the hell kind of Disney film do you watch?
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:44 am to Bronc
I would have been killed. No cop would stop me from just standing there while that was going on.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:45 am to jchamil
He just a pussy that would’ve sat outside also waiting for “protocol” and been fine with doing the minimum
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:45 am to jchamil
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Yeah, it's real life with real parents and real children. Also, what the hell kind of Disney film do you watch?
Y’all are really this stubborn to just not own up to the fact that this kid shouldn’t have had an AR-15 in the first place. This whole nonsense is to divert blame & attention from the real issue. This kid legally purchased the weapons to be able outgun a police force and put himself in a defendable position that we didn’t have a quick magical answer to solve.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:45 am to Palmetto98
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This isn’t a fricking Disney film, dear lord
If your kid was in a school, the cops were outside and there was action inside, you would try to do something.
If you didn't, you are one gigantic pussy or have no natural bond to your children..
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If your kid was in a school, the cops were outside and there was action inside, you would try to do something. If you didn't, you are one gigantic pussy or have no natural bond to your children..
This doesn’t change anything. I would’ve most likely made the situation worse and added another death to the kill count.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:52 am to Palmetto98
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Y’all are really this stubborn to just not own up to the fact that this kid shouldn’t have had an AR-15 in the first place. This whole nonsense is to divert blame & attention from the real issue. This kid legally purchased the weapons to be able outgun a police force and put himself in a defendable position that we didn’t have a quick magical answer to solve.
You realize more than one thing can be true at a time correct?
The kid should never have had a gun, and, the emerging timeline and reports paint a Parkland redux where officers hesitated to take action and follow SOP and it may have cost additional lives.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:53 am to Bronc
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And as it appears at the moment, the cops were actively restraining families from trying to do just that, which, I get. What I dont get is the cops not going in to confront the shooter, and according to one witness, now lying about that.
You understand that if the guy was in a classroom or other room with limited exits, it would not take many officers to contain him right?
There's a difference between containing the suspect properly and standing back allowing him to roam around.
Again we don't know. There were officers on scene with kids in the school, its absurd to think they wouldn't have wanted to do something if the guy was walking around.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:56 am to Palmetto98
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I would’ve most likely made the situation worse and added another death to the kill count.
Who cares if I'm one more on the death count. Whether it's my kids or anyone else's kids, nothing is stopping me from going in that building. If the shooter wastes a few rounds on me instead of an kid, it's worth it.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:57 am to Palmetto98
We limit speech. We limit protesting. Both protected rights in this country. We need to admit this is a problem.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:57 am to Bronc
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The kid should never have had a gun, and, the emerging timeline and reports paint a Parkland redux where officers hesitated to take action and follow SOP and it may have cost additional lives.
Again, he was able to lock himself in a classroom with kids hostage with an AR-15 and previous knowledge of shooting victims. There is no magical answer to this scenario, but could he have pulled this off with a Glock pistol?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:58 am to baldona
no no no no every available officer should be storming the building guns blazing....
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:01 pm to Palmetto98
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This doesn’t change anything. I would’ve most likely made the situation worse and added another death to the kill count.
I don’t believe I buy that theory. If the active shooter, an 18 year old kid, was confronted with return fire, you think it’s more likely he would have killed a trained officer easy and quickly enough to go back to shooting and killing the children? It’s obviously speculation but I don’t think the body count would be where it’s at today.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:01 pm to Palmetto98
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There is no magical answer to this scenario, but could he have pulled this off with a Glock pistol?
Pretty sure the Virginia Tech shooter proved that yes, it can be done.
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