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Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:10 pm to TeddyPadillac
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enrollment isn't going to drop b/c NBR gets worse.
Its not that NBR will "get worse", but it will "get bigger".
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:16 pm to Mudminnow
i mean without things like the mall of la, casinos, BR general which have been annexed into BR there really isnt a way for St. George to exist unless they really bring the size down and target a certain area.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:17 pm to Mudminnow
Parts of the mall are left out. Look at the re-zoning very closely. You'll see some stores in the mall are part of BR and some are not. Also I've been told that a lot of bug money, like 10's of millions of dollars, is prepared to back St. George. Like everyone has stated, it won't be easy but I believe if St. George is formed, it will succeed
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:20 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Parts of the mall are left out. Look at the re-zoning very closely. You'll see some stores in the mall are part of BR and some are not. Also I've been told that a lot of bug money, like 10's of millions of dollars, is prepared to back St. George. Like everyone has stated, it won't be easy but I believe if St. George is formed, it will succeed
I just dont see it being able to form. Too much uncertain non-revolving monies that are being relied upon.
and im not really for or against it im not taking my kids out of where they go to school anyways. plus its not like those new schools would be built any time soon.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:22 pm to volod
It has not been announced what the boundaries of St.George will be for the next round, anyone who says they are or aren't different is speculating.
Only voters in the proposed area will get to vote once enough signatures are gathered.
Only voters in the proposed area will get to vote once enough signatures are gathered.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:23 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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I've been told that a lot of bug money
bug money?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:26 pm to mpar98
Fat fingers. By bad. Big money
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:29 pm to Oilfieldbiology
I'm assuming St. George is going to need to build new schools, correct?
Are they looking at the Houston method of high property taxes to build a great school system? They have new schools built all the time and constant updating of technology. Houston folks don't pay state income tax but St. George residents will as well.
Are they looking at the Houston method of high property taxes to build a great school system? They have new schools built all the time and constant updating of technology. Houston folks don't pay state income tax but St. George residents will as well.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Did the city of metarie or kenner make New Orleans better, or metarie or kenner better?
Ummm....Metairie is unincorporated, and both Metairie and Kenner are Jefferson Parish, not Orleans. So regardless of whether they incorporated into their own city, Metairie/Kenner tax dollars weren't going towards NO anyway because they aren't in the same parish.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:43 pm to volod
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I think people are tired of the constant race card being used. It's gotten to the point where people who never cared about race behave in aggressive ways for fear of persecution.
Absolutely. It doesn't help that BR just elected a mayor who seemingly cannot have a conversation about anything without bringing up race. She and her administration are consumed by it.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
As long as BR has industry it will always be a viable city. Jackson is a shitty location for anything and was trending downwards way before Madison.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:11 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Why would anyone not in the new St. George, vote for it?
I live in St. George and I wouldn't. My father grew up in North Baton Rouge and His grandmother lived in Spanish town downtown apartments When I was a little kid. I have hope that it can be repaired I want to be a part of that. Of course I may be delusional, but I never liked the screw it lets do our own thing attitude I prefer to help where I can.
EDIT* sorry misread your post thought you were asking why anyone in St. George would not vote for it.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:58 pm to TeddyPadillac
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No, it closed b/c the people that live around there, don't pay to send their kid to private school, and the people that do pay to send their kids to private school, wouldn't bother having to drive through that part of town to send their kids to school. It is literally in one of the worst parts of this city. There are still kids from Central and Zachary that attend private schools, they just send them to Catholic, and Parkview, are other private schools that aren't in the middle of one of the most populous murder areas in the country. Also, almost half the students that were there when it closed, had their tuition paid through public vouchers, and the school was getting grades of F on their testing. You know exactly why that school closed, and it isn't b/c of Central and Zachary being better public school systems.
I'm not saying that's not partially true, but the downfall of that neighborhood isn't a new development - the area around Redemptorist has been bad for 30-40 years, but white people in the northern part of EBR were still opting to send their kids there rather than EBR schools until fairly recently . I grew up in Central and went to Catholic school in the late 90s and had plenty of friends that went to Redemptorist. RHS was winning state titles in football as a 3A school as recently as 2005.
Zachary split off their school district in '02 and Central in '07 and the traditional RHS base starting putting their kids in the improved public schools they were paying for anyway with the added benefit of not having them in north Baton Rouge. I found it ironic how many people I knew lamenting the closure of RHS, all while their kids were in Central public schools.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:44 pm to Mudminnow
Police and fire protection in the St George area is already being provided by the property taxes of the people who live in that area. The be city police and the brfd do not provide police and fire protection there.
The only lines that will be changed on the "new map" would be the areas that annexed into the city when Kip convinced them it was better for them. They annexed the railroad tracks to get to the mall and the hospital, one land owner to get to the casino.
There is a tremendous amount of sales tax revenue that is generated in the area that currently goes into the city/parish's coffers that get spent primarily in the city, and not back into the area it was collected from. That is also one of the gripes of those in the St George area. That money would go to the new city. The property taxes that are currently paid to the EBRPSB for school funding in the city primarily, would stay in the new city to fund schools there. There is a tremendous tax base there, and the new city could easily make it without cutting areas out that were in the previous plan. But no doubt, the city would "hurt"...they'd actually have to run the city government and services on a budget and cut back on some of the absolutely excessive waste they have.
The only lines that will be changed on the "new map" would be the areas that annexed into the city when Kip convinced them it was better for them. They annexed the railroad tracks to get to the mall and the hospital, one land owner to get to the casino.
There is a tremendous amount of sales tax revenue that is generated in the area that currently goes into the city/parish's coffers that get spent primarily in the city, and not back into the area it was collected from. That is also one of the gripes of those in the St George area. That money would go to the new city. The property taxes that are currently paid to the EBRPSB for school funding in the city primarily, would stay in the new city to fund schools there. There is a tremendous tax base there, and the new city could easily make it without cutting areas out that were in the previous plan. But no doubt, the city would "hurt"...they'd actually have to run the city government and services on a budget and cut back on some of the absolutely excessive waste they have.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:05 pm to volod
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But you know what they had that modern BLM do not? They had a sense of pride in being citizens.
This is crucial. When Michelle Obama said she had never been proud of her country until her husband was elected president, "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback," she said.
That's a huge part of the problem.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:13 pm to Brummy
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quote: No one that sends there kid to a private school will now send their kid to a public school in St. George.
I will.
My son currently attends an A-rated EBR public elementary school. No way will I send him to an EBR public middle school.
However, if St. George is incorporated and the schools are successful, I'll send him to a St. George middle school.
In addition, I didn't sign the petition last time. I'll be one of the first in line to sign it this time.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:16 pm to I am GLORIOUS
right you have him in a public school. my question is how long would the public schools in St. George take to make the transition? Obviously it would be a few yrs for the new schools to be built. So many would have to go to schools using the current infrastructure in place.
Although I am one that would not take mine out of private schools no matter what. Maybe when they get to HS age because that would probably be enough time to evaluate how good the schools actually are.
Although I am one that would not take mine out of private schools no matter what. Maybe when they get to HS age because that would probably be enough time to evaluate how good the schools actually are.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:28 pm to I am GLORIOUS
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I will.
You will what? You aren't sending them to a private school now.
I would bet that you would see zero drop in enrollment at the schools like Parkview, St. George, Most Blessed Sacrment, and St. Jude if St. George happens.
If there was a public school, where they only pulled from Santa Maria/Briarwood/Woodridge, i'd send my kid there.
I don't see that school ever being built, or it being built and being able to restrict who goes to the school to those 3 neighborhoods only.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:53 pm to TeddyPadillac
If Central can still support St.Alphonsus and Central Private then BR private schools needn't worry.
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