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Anyone know of Saint George's progress
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:50 am
As these race baiting allegations continue to rise, I really think it's time for the industrious people in BR to have their own neighborhood.
I think the new city council is taking things too far (and I'm a SU grad myself). I understand they want to respond to underlying racism, but their tactics are one sided.
However, you fight racism by being good parents, raising good kids, being a productive member of society, and following laws. Why can't people understand that resolving microaggressions and using identity politics to protect criminals is worthless. It doesn't make the situation any better.
In the Civil Rights movement, obviously they had identity politics. But you know what they had that modern BLM do not? They had a sense of pride in being citizens. They were very repressed, but they were hardworking people who wanted to make a better life for their children. It wasn't about some priveleged agenda, it was about wanting fair treatment.
Rant over, probably going to get down votes. But I had to vent
I think the new city council is taking things too far (and I'm a SU grad myself). I understand they want to respond to underlying racism, but their tactics are one sided.
However, you fight racism by being good parents, raising good kids, being a productive member of society, and following laws. Why can't people understand that resolving microaggressions and using identity politics to protect criminals is worthless. It doesn't make the situation any better.
In the Civil Rights movement, obviously they had identity politics. But you know what they had that modern BLM do not? They had a sense of pride in being citizens. They were very repressed, but they were hardworking people who wanted to make a better life for their children. It wasn't about some priveleged agenda, it was about wanting fair treatment.
Rant over, probably going to get down votes. But I had to vent
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 8:52 am
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:51 am to volod
I think they can start collecting signatures again this summer.
I will bet they will have more than the number required in less than 6 months.
I will bet they will have more than the number required in less than 6 months.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:52 am to volod
You're starting to get the hang of it
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:54 am to Muice
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You're starting to get the hang of it
ISWYDT
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 8:55 am
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:55 am to volod
they condensed what will be included within St. George. By a lot.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:55 am to volod
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In the Civil Rights movement, obviously they had identity politics.
But identity politics lost out to something deeper. Men like MLK, Jr. didn't want you to look at him and see a black man which would then determine how you should treat him. He wanted you to see a man first, a human being first. We are now at 180° away from that.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:57 am to udtiger
the signatures are needed to get it to go to a vote, right? Why would anyone not in the new St. George, vote for it?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:01 am to TeddyPadillac
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the signatures are needed to get it to go to a vote, right? Why would anyone not in the new St. George, vote for it?
Do those people get to vote?
I think, in my non-expert opinion, that St. George would be catastrophic for Baton Rouge and LSU. Look at Jackson, MS and what happened when the tax base left for Madison.
Businesses all left (didn't move to Madison, they left entirely), Jackson is a ghost town, and all the once beautiful homes and neighborhoods are a fraction of their value. Jackson will absolutely never recover. Its a small Detroit in the South.
I understand people wanted a change, I really do. But Baton Rouge would be done. All that progress downtown and on the river road corridor would be done. LSU would be irreparably damaged in many ways. The area around the lakes would eventually become done as well.
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It would be great for those in St. George though. Maybe Baton Rouge should set up toll booths to allow those people to enter the city.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:02 am to TeddyPadillac
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Why would anyone not in the new St. George, vote for it?
If I understand correctly, only those in the proposed st g area would be able to vote. If i am incorrect please correct me.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:18 am to volod
St. George will be incorporated. Jimmies will be rustled.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:23 am to volod
quote:dragon not yet slain
Anyone know of Saint George's progress
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:25 am to theBeard
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If I understand correctly, only those in the proposed st g area would be able to vote. If i am incorrect please correct me.
I don't think that's how it works, although I could be wrong.
A part of the city of Baton Rouge doesn't want to be part of the city of Baton Rouge. the City of Baton Rouge gets to decide the fate of this new proposed city breaking away from it's city. This is me logically thinking, so it's probably wrong since politics usually aren't logical.
I'm all for it, b/c i'll be in it, but I really doubt it does any good. Did the city of metarie or kenner make New Orleans better, or metarie or kenner better?
No one that sends there kid to a private school will now send their kid to a public school in St. George. The only positive I can see from it is maybe having better parks and fire/police stuff. All your property taxes go to is public schools, Brec and Fire/Police stuff for the most part anyway.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:27 am
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:27 am to TeddyPadillac
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city of metarie
fun fact...Metairie is unincorporated...there is no mayor of Metairie.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:33 am to TheCaterpillar
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Businesses all left (didn't move to Madison, they left entirely), Jackson is a ghost town, and all the once beautiful homes and neighborhoods are a fraction of their value. Jackson will absolutely never recover. Its a small Detroit in the South.
I understand people wanted a change, I really do. But Baton Rouge would be done. All that progress downtown and on the river road corridor would be done. LSU would be irreparably damaged in many ways. The area around the lakes would eventually become done as well.
I don't understand this argument. Don't leave BR that is failing it's citizens because then BR might fail? Doesn't the ownership lie on the citizens of BR? Stop dragging the St. George people into BR's misery. We simply wanted our own school district, and the clown we have as mayor told us no, you aren't part of BR, you don't get to have one. The ownership of the failing city is completely on them.
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would be great for those in St. George though. Maybe Baton Rouge should set up toll booths to allow those people to enter the city.
That's what we need, tollbooths on I10. That would really help traffic.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:34 am to TeddyPadillac
this topic is about incorporating an unincorporated area, not part of the city seceding from the rest
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:37 am to TeddyPadillac
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The only positive I can see from it is maybe having better parks and fire/police stuff.
BREC is already parishwide. Baton Rouge has one of the top fire ratings in the country. EBR Sheriff would still be policing St. George. So none of that would be significantly improved.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:37 am to mpar98
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fun fact...Metairie is unincorporated
In fact it's the 5th largest unincorporated community in the United States.
All the same, I still consider it the 4th largest city in Louisiana.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:38 am to BugAC
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I don't understand this argument.
Its not really an argument for you to stay, I understand why people want to break off. Its just me saying that if St. George breaks off, Baton Rouge wouldn't just slowly fail, it would completely break down and turn in to Jackson, MS.
And LSU would be severely effected.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:39 am to volod
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I think the new city council is taking things too far
I sometimes wonder if you have any clue of what you're talking about.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:42 am to TheCaterpillar
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It would be great for those in St. George though.
It wouldn't. Madison has very restrictive zoning designed specifically to keep the undesirables out. St George is a mostly unplanned free-for-all. If St George schools are actually that much better initially, the undesirables are simply going to move to St George.
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