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re: Anyone know of Saint George's progress

Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:23 am to
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:23 am to
really could care less....packing my shite up and moving to St. Francisville
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:24 am to
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You are the one stating that BR is going to turn into Jackson, MS. Did you not say that in a negative way? You even posted that you are worried about your mom not being able to sell her house if SG forms because BR will fail.


IF SG FORMS.

Not if it doesn't form. None of those things will happen.


ETA:
That was the whole point of everything I said

That those terrible things would happen in St. George happens. I don't get how you misunderstood that.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 10:25 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56941 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:25 am to
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Not if it doesn't form. None of those things will happen.



So is SG the glue holding BR together?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:26 am to
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So is SG the glue holding BR together?


Well, for one, St. George doesn't exist. And two, that tax base a big piece of the puzzle, yes. LSU is another huge piece. Downtown another.

They all need to stick together to make BR work.

Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18876 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:32 am to
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Well, for one, St. George doesn't exist. And two, that tax base a big piece of the puzzle, yes. LSU is another huge piece. Downtown another.

They all need to stick together to make BR work.


So where does the development of NBR fit into all of this?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:36 am to
They make really good fried chicken.


ETA:

And I get what you're insinuating. Yes, NBR is a tax drain and crime riddled.

If LSU, Downtown, and the rest of the city wanted to break off from NBR I would be all for it.

But they aren't. Most cities, especially in the South, have shitty areas of town that are tax drains and crime riddled. They put up with it because it is worth it to keep the rest of the city working.

I don't live there, but really thought one day I'd move back when I start a family. I probably wouldn't if St. George breaks off because the only places I'd consider living are the garden district, hundred oaks area, or Southdowns. Those places will be ruined.

The people who are anti-St.George have a terrible marketing campaign btw. Its embarrassing and hasn't galvanized anyone. I think they need to change their marketing narrative to focus on the harm this would cause LSU. That would grab educated whitey's attention more than anything.

This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 10:43 am
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15688 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:07 am to
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Yes, NBR is a tax drain and crime riddled.


Yet, the new mayor is hell-bent on trying to revitalize the area without addressing the crime issue first.

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If LSU, Downtown, and the rest of the city wanted to break off from NBR I would be all for it.


Hell yes! I'm all for that.

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the only places I'd consider living are the garden district, hundred oaks area, or Southdowns. Those places will be ruined.


Yep. Jackson had some beautiful old neighborhoods too. Not so much anymore. The same thing would happen to BR. Property values would plummet and Broome will raise taxes in an attempt to offset the tax revenue lost to St. George. BR's city infrastructure would crumble. Businesses will leave the city in droves. If St. George happens on Broome's watch, she will be known as the mayor who destroyed BR.

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I think they need to change their marketing narrative to focus on the harm this would cause LSU


It's amazing that nobody has taken this into consideration. LSU would suffer greatly and enrollment would drop. Maybe they need to get LSU involved before it's too late.



Posted by mpar98
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
8041 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:16 am to
I see a lot of people saying St. George would be breaking away...do you realize the St. George area is unincorporated and not within the city limits of BTR? Its just that we have a city-parish govt (one entity). The St. George movement would incorporate, just like Central did...just like Zachary and Baker did.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17058 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:20 am to
Have an upvote Volod! You stated the OP perfectly, too bad it falls on deaf ears in the community.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29763 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:21 am to
I don't see how anyone of this would ever affect LSU.
LSU is pretty much it's own little town, that is already surrounded by bad neighborhoods. Hasnt' affected them one bit.
People aren't going to stop living near there, along Highland and Burbank, and people aren't going to stop supporting the Tigers.

Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18876 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:22 am to
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And I get what you're insinuating.


I actually wasn't insinuating anything. My personal opinion is that a strong NBR betters the city as a whole. The problem is that it's a very difficult job because you have to change people's behavior first. However, there are people there that want to better themselves and want quality jobs and places to go.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15688 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:29 am to
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don't see how anyone of this would ever affect LSU. LSU is pretty much it's own little town, that is already surrounded by bad neighborhoods. Hasnt' affected them one bit. People aren't going to stop living near there, along Highland and Burbank, and people aren't going to stop supporting the Tigers.


If Baton Rouge goes the way of Jackson, MS, you better believe LSU will be affected. It's not about people supporting the Tigers. It's about enrollment dropping drastically because parents don't want to send their kids to college in what could basically be a smaller version of Detroit. I sure as hell wouldn't do it, regardless of how much I love LSU and the Tigers.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29763 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:46 am to
Like I said, LSU is basically it's own little town, and is already surrounded by shitty neighborhoods.
How are you going to make it worse? enrollment isn't going to drop b/c NBR gets worse.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:49 am to
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LSU is pretty much it's own little town, that is already surrounded by bad neighborhoods.


I agree. Flagship schools are practically city-states (without a self contained government).

As long as they keep getting tuition money, I think LSU can keep its nearby areas looking good.

I think the real issue is separatin from BR without a political backlash. I think people are tired of the constant race card being used. It's gotten to the point where people who never cared about race behave in aggressive ways for fear of persecution.


Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18876 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:54 am to
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If Baton Rouge goes the way of Jackson, MS, you better believe LSU will be affected. It's not about people supporting the Tigers. It's about enrollment dropping drastically because parents don't want to send their kids to college in what could basically be a smaller version of Detroit. I sure as hell wouldn't do it, regardless of how much I love LSU and the Tigers.


I'm sorry but this is alarmist fear mongering. Through the years LSU has had numerous high profile murders on and near campus and in student apartments. While it might have swayed a few students' decisions, the school has yet to struggle with enrollment.

The only thing that is going to hurt LSU is lack of funding for students.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34201 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:55 am to
what huge busineeses are in the proposed St. George area that will bring in the tax base used to support schools, roads, etc..
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29763 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:58 am to
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what huge busineeses are in the proposed St. George area that will bring in the tax base used to support schools, roads, etc..


Santa Maria, the Country Club, Highland Road.
Not stupid taxes like CATS, or building new stupid libraries downtown.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 11:59 am
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39895 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:58 am to
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Anyone know of Saint George's progress


If this happens, the new St. George needs to ensure that Chauna Banks is a part of St. George.







From her "how-to" post on defrauding FEMA to software pirating, Chauna really looks out for her citizens.

She could be a tremendous asset for St. George.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34201 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:01 pm to
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Santa Maria, the Country Club, Highland Road


The Mall is not included, hospitals, etc...?

They need to pump an incredible amount of money into the schools. Are they going to raise property taxes by a large factor in order to make up the difference?

Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:03 pm to
pretty sure after the failed attempt they redrew the lines and mall of la and BR general were not in there.
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