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re: Anyone here ever restore a car? Or fix an oldie?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:38 am to Napoleon
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:38 am to Napoleon
My dad bought a 67 Mustang Coupe with the 289 v8 3 speed for me and my brothers first car. We went with him to pick it up. It was sitting under an oak tree slathered in latex house paint, sitting on blocks, floor boards full of water Popped the hood and there sat a freshly re-built 289. We loaded it onto the trailer and hauled it home. We spent the next year restoring that car. After it was all said and done we won 3 car shows with it. It was an awesome experience that I will never forget.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:53 am to Napoleon
Wish you the best. Restoring a car can try your patience. Stick it out. It is worth it. I have a few 5.0 Mustangs under the knife, right now, including a dark blue '89 Louisiana State Police that I searched for 20 years to find. Still would like an old one, again.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:56 am to Napoleon
12v, right? I suggest completely replacing the wiring harness. You can find restoration harnesses out there, but since you know a good bit about electrical stuff, I suggest making it yourself. You can buy the connectors, conduit looms, friction tape, and even cloth-covered wire separately and put it together yourself.
As for the painting, you could do it yourself, if you had a sizable air compressor and enough space to put up a makeshift booth, but it may be easier to do the prep work yourself and then take it to a body shop for the topcoats.
If it's been sitting for that long, I imagine that all the seals and fluids need to be replaced. Even if they look like they're okay, once the shafts start spinning, you're likely to see leaks (on the other hand, nearly anything that used rope seals from that time period is going to have some leaking).
Can you even buy refrigerant for a 1960 factory air anymore?
ETA: I restore antique Ford tractors, parts, and implements in my spare time. Like another poster said, you do it mainly for the fun of doing the work (and the thrill of the hunt for the parts...don't know about how the car world is, but in tractor restoration, OE parts are usually cheaper and better fits. In fact, a lot of guys get tired of the restorations and move into the parting-out business). It's definitely not something that you are going to make a lot of money doing. In fact, unless you're doing something that's going to end up at a Mecum's auction, you'll lose money, particularly when you figure your time invested. On the other hand, there's nothing quite so satisfactory as looking at something that's been restored to original, pristine condition, especially when you know what it looked like beforehand.
As for the painting, you could do it yourself, if you had a sizable air compressor and enough space to put up a makeshift booth, but it may be easier to do the prep work yourself and then take it to a body shop for the topcoats.
If it's been sitting for that long, I imagine that all the seals and fluids need to be replaced. Even if they look like they're okay, once the shafts start spinning, you're likely to see leaks (on the other hand, nearly anything that used rope seals from that time period is going to have some leaking).
Can you even buy refrigerant for a 1960 factory air anymore?
ETA: I restore antique Ford tractors, parts, and implements in my spare time. Like another poster said, you do it mainly for the fun of doing the work (and the thrill of the hunt for the parts...don't know about how the car world is, but in tractor restoration, OE parts are usually cheaper and better fits. In fact, a lot of guys get tired of the restorations and move into the parting-out business). It's definitely not something that you are going to make a lot of money doing. In fact, unless you're doing something that's going to end up at a Mecum's auction, you'll lose money, particularly when you figure your time invested. On the other hand, there's nothing quite so satisfactory as looking at something that's been restored to original, pristine condition, especially when you know what it looked like beforehand.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:25 pm to Napoleon
I am DYING to restore an old muscle car with my son (over the next 5-10 years).
Not that I think it is likely, but what is the best car to restore, financially speaking?
I know I won't ever get my money back out, but what car (in the boards opinion) would be the most "cost effective" to restore.
You could include finished value, ease of finding parts, cheapness of parts, etc.
I don't care how much it costs to restore, just what its value compares to expense at the end of it all.
My favorite are the first generation Camaro and Firebirds but I love all muscle cars.
Not that I think it is likely, but what is the best car to restore, financially speaking?
I know I won't ever get my money back out, but what car (in the boards opinion) would be the most "cost effective" to restore.
You could include finished value, ease of finding parts, cheapness of parts, etc.
I don't care how much it costs to restore, just what its value compares to expense at the end of it all.
My favorite are the first generation Camaro and Firebirds but I love all muscle cars.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:39 pm to SECdragonmaster
You can get your money back. Don't buy a run of the mill car. Spend a little more on the front end, and buy rust free and complete. It pays huge dividends later. The piece of crap that has been yard art for years is not normally worth the effort. Has to be super rare, and valuable.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:52 pm to LSUinMA
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66 Mustang
70 Skylark
78 Trans Am
66 Fairlane convertible
64 Montclair
69 mustang
66 Mustang
64 Galaxie convertible
56 Bel Air
How about some pics?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:39 pm to weadjust
The inertia switch went out.
I couldn't reset it even, was odd.
I replaced it an it was fine.
I couldn't reset it even, was odd.
I replaced it an it was fine.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:02 pm to HarryBalzack
I'm pulling the engine, throwing out the gas tank, all reservoirs and replacing every inch of wiring, I'm going to make a custom harness and add in some electronics that can be hidden.
I want to make it reliable. If it has a generator I will switch to an alternator. Also add in alarm and power trunk release.
It used r-12. Not available to the public but I have an EPA license. I also have about 5 pounds of it in a tank already, should be more than enough. Though I may change it to R134a, which is easy to convert to. I've converted cars and fridges to it before.
The system is actually very simple and nothing is hidden as in most modern cars. The compressor is even designed to be rebuilt rather easily. Don't need a lot of special tools.
I am reading up on the transmission now. It also looks simple.
The P N D L R shift pattern is odd though.
I want to make it reliable. If it has a generator I will switch to an alternator. Also add in alarm and power trunk release.
It used r-12. Not available to the public but I have an EPA license. I also have about 5 pounds of it in a tank already, should be more than enough. Though I may change it to R134a, which is easy to convert to. I've converted cars and fridges to it before.
The system is actually very simple and nothing is hidden as in most modern cars. The compressor is even designed to be rebuilt rather easily. Don't need a lot of special tools.
I am reading up on the transmission now. It also looks simple.
The P N D L R shift pattern is odd though.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:05 pm to SECdragonmaster
Mustangs are the cheapest to get parts for, there are so many.
Those are Pony cars though. A pony car was built on the platform of a compact car, and generally a muscle car was built on a mid or full size platform.
Camaros aren't bad for parts. I just remember in the late 90's there being tons of places to get parts for my mustang.
60's camaros on Hemming's
Those are Pony cars though. A pony car was built on the platform of a compact car, and generally a muscle car was built on a mid or full size platform.
Camaros aren't bad for parts. I just remember in the late 90's there being tons of places to get parts for my mustang.
60's camaros on Hemming's
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:09 pm to FlyinTiger93
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You can get your money back.
You arent getting any money back on a resto unless you can do almost 100% of the work.
There is a 66 mustang with a coyote for sale near me, that I want bad...
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1966 Ford Mustang
TCI Front Suspension w/Coilovers
TCI Rear Suspension w/Coilovers
Torque Boxes
Power Rack & Pinion Steering
Wilwood 4 Wheel Disc Brakes
5.0 Coyote Crate Motor
Aerospace Fuel Pump & Regulator
Kustom Air Filter Box & Pipe
Pheonix 4R70W Transmission
Strange 9 inch Ford Rear End
Ford Racing Wiring Harness & Computer
Ron Francis Car Wiring Harness
Vintage Air
Kustom Air Vents In Dash
Halo Headlights & Led Park Lights
Dakota VHX Series Gauges
Lokar Shifter
Late Model Wiper Motor
Kustom Engine Cover
TMI Interior w/ Bolstered Seats
One Piece Headliner w/ 1 1/2"s More Headroom
Iditit Tilt Column
Hidden Optima Battery In Trunk
17" Magnum 500 Wheels
Hidden LED Side Markers
Underside Of Car Lizzard Skinned
Complete Dynamat Inside
Matrix Premium Paint & Clear Coat
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:18 pm to SECdragonmaster
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I don't care how much it costs to restore, just what its value compares to expense at the end of it all.
Best ROI I see, reading car mags and forums is from importing a rare but desirable foreign car.
Like Citoren DS21s or Early BMWs or Porsche. The best I found looking is the price gap between the BMW E34 M5 in the US and Germany. In the states it's value goes to $85k, in Europe you see them for $15-20 sometimes.
German google and french google are great for finding, but you have to search in that country's language or it will give you American and English links.
I know right now I could sell the bumpers and quadruple what I paid for the car (they fit the more desirable El Dorado)
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:57 pm to Napoleon
Don't throw out the gas tank as a matter of course. The repops are expensive as hell and it is possible to clean out the one you have. I've cleaned out and reused several. If you know someone at a radiator shop, find out when they are getting ready to change out their boiling vat and see if they'll dip the tank right before they throw it out. If not, you can actually fill it full of vinegar and let it sit for a week or so. Drying it out is a bitch, but if you have a blower you can set it up to force air through it. I've run across some that people put sand peddles in and shook. They never got them all out, but it ran. Took me forty forevers to get all of them out with a shop vac.
I've coated them with Por15 (which is expensive as hell), Red Kote, and Northern. Northern was the easiest in terms of getting it to slosh around. Por15 leaves the prettiest coat. Red Kote was somewhere in the middle. All three worked, though, but you need about twice what they say on the bottle if the tank has baffles.
I've coated them with Por15 (which is expensive as hell), Red Kote, and Northern. Northern was the easiest in terms of getting it to slosh around. Por15 leaves the prettiest coat. Red Kote was somewhere in the middle. All three worked, though, but you need about twice what they say on the bottle if the tank has baffles.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:42 am to Napoleon
quote:
Best ROI I see, reading car mags and forums is from importing a rare but desirable foreign car.
Like Citoren DS21s or Early BMWs or Porsche. The best I found looking is the price gap between the BMW E34 M5 in the US and Germany. In the states it's value goes to $85k, in Europe you see them for $15-20 sometimes.
German google and french google are great for finding, but you have to search in that country's language or it will give you American and English links.
I know right now I could sell the bumpers and quadruple what I paid for the car (they fit the more desirable El Dorado)
thanks.
that is a good start.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:27 am to Napoleon
Cheapest Shipping quote came in at $497 garage to garage.
I was going to take my trailer, but it has no brakes and is rated for up to 5000 pounds. This car has a curb weight dry of 4900 pounds so that is close. Plus my truck is rated to 6500 pounds and van to 7500 pounds and while both have brake controllers my big trailer has no brakes.
$497 doesn't seem bad, especially if it saves me another trip to Houston.
Already ordered some new air-tools and some blast media, component stripping will start next weekend. Can't wait.
I was going to take my trailer, but it has no brakes and is rated for up to 5000 pounds. This car has a curb weight dry of 4900 pounds so that is close. Plus my truck is rated to 6500 pounds and van to 7500 pounds and while both have brake controllers my big trailer has no brakes.
$497 doesn't seem bad, especially if it saves me another trip to Houston.
Already ordered some new air-tools and some blast media, component stripping will start next weekend. Can't wait.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:42 am to NYCAuburn
Very nice-I like that. He set it up to handle the power he put in it
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:42 pm to NYCAuburn
What's the price of the Mustang?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:19 pm to FLAK88
My father's. '57 Chevy Restomod, it's nearly complete with a LT1/T56 6speed. We are doing the complete Route 66 tour next year in it.
My 68
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My 68
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:26 pm to windmill
Coyote = Big Money. Lot of work goes into that conversion.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:32 pm to Napoleon
Restored an 1961 Austin-Healy Sprite back in 1975-76 with my dad. Was a labor of love for my dad. Was a pain in the arse for me. I only got to drive it twice before he sold it for about triple what he had in it.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:43 pm to Napoleon
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Tornados were cool, the first front wheel drive American cars if I remember right.
Good guess, the Toronado was the second, the Cord L-29 was the first.
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