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re: Anyone have an actual good alternative to the economic system we have created?

Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:34 am to
Posted by YungFO
Dallas
Member since Mar 2018
1125 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:34 am to
Yeah this board is full of old white dudes that are very set in their ways and could NEVER see the other side of the story. Most lack simple empathy or a basic understanding that other people had far different upbringings than their own.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16871 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:35 am to
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Who would control the blockchain/ how does this work? 



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Decentralization


Google it. There's an enormous amount of information on it.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6020 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:35 am to
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We give up 40+ hours a week to someone else, creating income for them.


Get this shite out of here. You "give up" your time to earn income for yourself. You should feel lucky that "someone" was willing to hire you.

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Some earn their wealth, while others waste the wealth earned for them.


It's their money. What's the issue?

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Do we even want a more fair society?


It doesn't come any more fair than our current system. Anyone, I do mean anyone, can become wealthy in our current system. Only the lazy want a "more fair system".
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:36 am to
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Do we even want a more fair society?


Jesus Christ...

WTF do you want and what would be more fair? The only thing wrong with our system is too much fricking cronyism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:37 am to
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We need more capitalism in our economy. It is by far the most moral of the economic systems.
Bingo
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:37 am to
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There will always be degrees of hierarchy b/c we are not all of equal economic/physical/mental worth. Intelligence, motivation, competitive spirit are all elements of human nature. it's a fools errand to attempt to eliminate or suppress those natural feelings in an effort to achieve equality/morality/whatever.


Exactly. Anyone that doesn't understand this needs to go spend some time around the poor. They make tons of terrible decisions every day. People want to feel bad for people, yet the vast majority of the poor are very lazy and make bad decisions to stay poor on a daily basis.

So why should they be equal economically with someone that works their arse off and saves money?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49071 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:38 am to
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So we can agree that human greed and choice ruins all three economic models yes? Therefore we need a new one. If we are getting more intelligent and advancing, why are we still using models that have a hierarchy


Hierarchy will exists a long as humans run the economy.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:38 am to
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Yeah this board is full of old white dudes that are very set in their ways and could NEVER see the other side of the story


Sounds like a typical 18 year old communist.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:38 am to
More jobs in the US, more stable businesses, better working environments.
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:38 am to
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Stop worrying about the rules you don't like and play the damn game to win with the rules at hand. Its really that simple.

What is this "rigged for the wealthy" crap anyway?

Literally anyone can become wealthy in the USA. Go to a shite public school system that gets you into a shite 4 year college, and get great grades at that shite 4 year college. Then use those grades to get you into a good graduate school.

Boom, $200k+ a year salary.

There's literally no other country in the world you can do this with such ease, and there's never been a time in history where its easier for a dirt poor person to become top 10%.

So stop complaining and play the damn game.


Sorry baw, I don't like being a pawn in another man's game, that's silly.
My friend just graduated with a masters in speech pathology.....boom 65k a year you fricking dimwit

Just because there are others behind you and you set the standard, doesn't mean the standard can't be improved does it?
Posted by YungFO
Dallas
Member since Mar 2018
1125 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:40 am to
If you think you had the same starting line as someone from Leonard Fournette's neighborhood your out of your mind.
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:40 am to
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Google it. There's an enormous amount of information on it.


cool thanks, sometimes it's helpful to have certain things pointed out to you in a sea of information. Whats the point in you knowing it, if not to share your knowledge?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59175 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:40 am to
Yes. No taxes

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476663 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:41 am to
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I guess I was mistaken for looking for innovation with this crowd

there isn't much room

either you want more power given to the state to destroy liberty of people or you want less power given to the state to increase the liberty of people. more liberty means higher inequality but typically also a higher standard of living
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23250 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:41 am to
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Yeah this board is full of old white dudes


What's "old", IYO? 30's?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:41 am to
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If you think you had the same starting line as someone from Leonard Fournette's neighborhood your out of your mind.


Everyone is given the same opportunity to succeed by the government. Everyone.

If you can't take advantage of free education, maybe you're the problem.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:41 am to
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Sorry baw, I don't like being a pawn in another man's game, that's silly.
My friend just graduated with a masters in speech pathology.....boom 65k a year you fricking dimwit


LOL, you expect me to feel sorry for someone that CHOSE speech pathology?

I never said any graduate degree will make you wealthy, that's laughable.

No, you don't play to be another man's pawn. You play the game to win for yourself.

You sound like a liberal arts major that's a barista frustrated because you screwed up your undergraduate years.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6020 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:41 am to
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Yeah this board is full of old white dudes that are very set in their ways and could NEVER see the other side of the story. Most lack simple empathy or a basic understanding that other people had far different upbringings than their own.


The system is open to everyone regardless of upbringing. It's up to the individual to make it in life. There are countless examples of people in terrible upbringings having successful careers. There are countless examples of people losing everything and turning their lives completely around for the better. Is the road harder for someone with a difficult upbringing? Yes, absolutely, but it's not something someone can't overcome. Those that do overcome don't use excuses.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:42 am to
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I don't like being a pawn in another man's game,


You don't have to, which is the awesome thing about capitalism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:42 am to
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The system is open to everyone regardless of upbringing. It's up to the individual to make it in life


Correct. It's that simple.
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