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re: Anyone have a kid that just doesn’t care about school?

Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:25 pm to
my wife is a teacher. it’s most of them nowadays that do not value an education.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:26 pm to
Yes.
It's very frustrating, is all I can say. He worked himself OUT of honors classes when he went to his H.S. for 7th grade. We pulled our hair out almost every day he was in school from PreK until he graduated high school.

Sharp mind, intelligent, good athlete, talented musician, simply would not work. Pulled lots of Cs and Ds when he should have been a 4.0 or better student. He did come to understand that he HAD to put in some effort to get out on time in May of his graduation year.

He's not in school, now, but wants to get network and software certifications. He's good at stuff he applies himself to. But I worry for him. I quit nagging him, I try to encourage him to use his talents well, but that's as far as I will go. Anything beyond that and he will do his level best to shock me, in a negative way. He's tough and hard-headed.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:28 pm to
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We’ve taken things away. He doesn’t care. Grounded. Doesn’t care. Will just serve the time and go back to coasting.
Couple of things...

1. With the punishments, you mentioned he does the punishment then goes back to coasting. Why not take away YouTube until you see the improvement? So there's no timetable, but he'll get his favorite things back only once he improves his grades. I do agree that I would not stop him from playing organized sports or whatever, but start taking away every other darn thing he likes until the grades improve

2. Have you tried going the other way from punishments, and utilize rewards? Is there some hobby or just some shite in general he loves? You can do a once a 9 weeks type thing(or whatever standard they use) and if he gets a certain amount of grades, you'll buy him that Zion jersey he wants or whatever. Just a thought if you haven't gone that route
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Pulled lots of Cs and Ds when he should have been a 4.0 or better student. He did come to understand that he HAD to put in some effort to get out on time in May of his graduation year.

He's not in school, now, but wants to get network and software certifications. He's good at stuff he applies himself to. But I worry for him. I quit nagging him, I try to encourage him to use his talents well, but that's as far as I will go. Anything beyond that and he will do his level best to shock me, in a negative way. He's tough and hard-headed.

The world needs ditch diggers too.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5757 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:35 pm to
Just be glad your kid is getting a 3.0

Don't be so hard on him.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9862 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:37 pm to
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He’s got a 3.0


quote:

He’s 10


You're the problem.

He will not talk to you when you're old. Sorry
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:38 pm to
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If he's got a 3.0 without trying, let him coast for now.
Not sure why I hadn't thought of that, it may be the most obvious answer thus far.


Yea, why is it really an issue right now...maybe it's not an issue at all.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:39 pm to
Unironically a good idea
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:40 pm to
I think that my parents would have been pretty thrilled if I had a 3.0 at age 10, but I am not what one would consider "brilliant."
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50117 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:40 pm to
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Anyone have a kid that just doesn’t care about school?
Yep. IT has been a fight until about the beginning of her sophomore year. I THINK it is finally starting to click that she completely controls her future and just cuz she wants to be a nurse doesn't mean she can be one with the grades she has made in the past. I took EVERYTHING away from her...it didn't make a damn difference until she started looking at colleges and what GPA she needs to get in. Hit her hard. I have seen a change in her finally, just hope it sticks.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:41 pm to
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Right? My little one is definitely too young for these conversations, but I feel like I would drive her around a poor neighborhood and tell her that's where people live who don't care about school.

Sorta similar, when my 1 kid was around 6, he got in trouble for something small, I have no idea what it was. But he said he didn't like the rules and wanted to live in a house with different rules.


I immediately grabbed my keys and told him to put his shoes on, we were leaving. He starts putting his shoes on and asked where we were going. I told him I was going to drive him to another neighborhood, he could pick the house that he thought had better rules, and I'd drop him off and he'd live with that family forever.

He looked at me confused, and I said something like, "Hurry up, I gotta get home to make your brother dinner."

I thought it would just do the trick, and it did but he started freaking out and crying unlike I expected and it was probably a little harsh...or he was a tad too soft at that age.
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:41 pm to
Since when do hell do 4th graders have GPAs?
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:49 pm to
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One of my nephews is 15 and doesn't give a shite about school. His 2 sisters win all sorts of academic awards too


He has two sisters….


One was just accepted into CU-Boulder last week. The other is in gifted classes in middle school.

Priorities between the 3 are polar opposite.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:49 pm to
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Since when do hell do 4th graders have GPAs?
I was in 4th grade in 1989, so at least since 1989
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50117 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:53 pm to
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Priorities between the 3 are polar opposite
Same at our house. Oldest graduated with a 4.0 with 21 hours already at LSU, she is now a Junior at LSU and this is her 4th semester there. Could not be more different. One thing I never try to do is compare. While the sophomore is trying now, school is just a struggle bus for her. She can study with a tutor every night for an hour, she does practice test and does fine then on her geometry test she gets a 73.
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2020
1292 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:57 pm to
A 3.0 is the equivalent of 2.0 (in public school) before NCLB. Your son might be intelligent and bored as you describe but he could just as likely be average Joe who turns in his work on time which BION results in extra points in most public schools.
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
7290 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:57 pm to
Sometimes I feel that grades aren't everything. Interest in learning new things, whatever that might be, is paramount. I've worked with "smart people" that did dumb shite or had attitudes. I've worked with "simple" people who were very clever.
I'm assuming the end goal here is education for occupation in life.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281934 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 4:00 pm to
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Priorities between the 3 are polar opposite.


My younger bro and I are like twins, my older brother and younger sister are very different than we are. They're more like my mom, I'm more like my dad.

Kids figure things out if given responsibility and time. I'm grateful for my parents allowing us to find our own way.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54593 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 4:05 pm to
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Kid is at a highly rated school and puts very minimal effort into his school work. Doesn’t do much homework. No initiative. No desire to be there. Nothing. The problem is that the kid is brilliant. He’s got a 3.0 by doing the bare minimum. If he actually put the effort into school like he did extracurricular activities, he’d be a 4.0 student. We’ve taken things away. He doesn’t care. Grounded. Doesn’t care. Will just serve the time and go back to coasting.

Thoughts? Experiences? Just looking for angles.

He’s 10 in the 4th grade.


You described my son perfectly. IQ is out of this world. Makes honor roll because he's brilliant.

However....

This past year he turned a corner. Started studying more, picked up a hobby, and more importantly....GOT A JOB. The flip switched all on its own about two months ago. He's a freshman now in HS, but this was pretty much his attitude for the first 15 years of his life.

Now I'm beyond proud when I talk about the past few months. LOL
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8186 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 4:08 pm to
My father had a friend who's son absolutely hated school, but he loved fixing cars and was good at it. Friend told son "OK, get your GED and your done with school. Then you can learn to fix cars". Son got his GED at 17 +/- and went to work. Thirty years later the son has three mechanic shops in LA (California) and is a multi-millionaire. School is not for everyone, as long as one applies one's self.
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