re: Anyone had any luck suing a solar company?

The app I have is called Enphase. Enlighten. Looks like I use wayyyy more than I produce.

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The app I have is called Enphase. Enlighten. Looks like I use wayyyy more than I produce.

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That’s it. Ok good news you have a good system. Enphase makes good shite. You should be able to dig around in that and see if any micros are offline and faulting out during the day. Once you know it’s functioning properly, then it’s time to figure out if they overestimated production in the proposal. You should be able to look at historical production and go pull your proposal which should have monthly estimated production included.

well if you know how to cook, she can get a job at night to pay for her bright idea.

I’m about to crash but wanted to put this one thing out and I’ll check this in the morning or like I said earlier feel free to email me.

Solar sales fraud happens in a few way:
Overestimating production - designing unbuildable systems, intentionally removing shade obstructions or just using shitty tools powered by google sunroof that have high uncertainty.
Overestimating savings - over production feeds this one but there are also ways they can manipulate the rates in the savings calculator to present a more favorable position.
Overestimating future costs - they LOVE to crank up the utility rate escalator. Anything over 3-4% is grounds for fraud, I’ve seen proposals with 20% utility escalators. They seriously told a customer they would be spending 10k a month for electricity. And that customer signed. Needless to say that one got cancelled.

You don’t need to worry too much about equipment loss issues as long as you can confirm it’s all functioning properly. The micro systems are ideal for residential and you have ones of the better setups on the market. It very well could be an investment grade system if you have a tier 1 panel.

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So your panels are providing solar power to the panel and whatever they produce, over the draw, basically spins the counter back the other way. If you are drawing more than they are producing, you are still buying that power from the grid.

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Kinda. There’s no spinning it backward ps anymore. They use dual CT meters than can measure bi-directionally because you don’t get 1:1 reimbursement usually.

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The panels cannot cause a higher bill on their own.

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They actually can because if they’re offline the Envoy (for this particular system) would need power still but it’s like a couple bucks a month. Basically unnoticeable. But there is this weird thing with solar and there’s a ton of data behind it. Most people consume about 10% more power after going solar. It’s just consumer behavior.

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If they told you that you would have a near zero bill, they lied. The best I ever saw was about 1/3 reduction in my bill. You need more panels to get a greater reduction. The only people that I know of that have a “near zero” bill have many many panels in a completely bald pasture facing south. Way more than could fit on a roof top.

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Good chance it’s sales fraud here unless it’s an equipment issue. I’ve seen 80% reductions but it’s rare even for 100%+ offset systems. Now if you live somewhere that you can go 200%, sure but then you got a monster system and it cost you a ton of money and you’re just throwing it away.

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Yeah that sweet poontang, right?

Right?

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they are typically fly by night

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I think the concept behind Solar Panels is that it's a big upfront expense/capex, but over time after a decade or so, it pays off because there isn't a monthly energy bill. If you spent the money already, I'd just leave it. If I were you, instead of a knee-jerk reaction, I'd sit through and find out how much exactly 10 years of energy bills from the grid will cost you, then compare it to how much you've spent/and or will spend getting it finished. Make a smart decision, not knee jerk reaction... if you've already put money in it. Let's say you're hypothetical average energy bill is $300 a month (just guessing). That's $3,600 a year. That's $36,000 over 10 years. Does this cost more or less than $36,000? Even if it's $40,000, maybe pays off after 11 to 12 years. You have to add in maintenance expense into solar, but have 0 idea if that's cheap or a lot. If it's only $20,000 today, then I'd just leave it.

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He’s paying $300 more per month in energy bills plus his loan payments

You’ve come to the right place

The worst part hasn't even hit you yet.

Wait until you have to sell this house, and potential buyers who don't listen to their wives about financing solar panels see those solar panels and the cost associated with them.

You have removed 98% of potential buyers from your pool.