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re: Anyone getting tired of certain people CONSTANTLY lying about police altercations?

Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:32 pm to
Strong safety is either a troll or an ignorant twat. I'm not sure which
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:32 pm to
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I just meant in general.


Well if you want to talk in generalities, OK. In GENERAL, police do an unbelievably difficult job with a great deal of restraint. You have NO IDEA of the dregs of the earth that they face. Are there some bad ones? Since they are part of the general population, then, sure. By and LARGE, they handle thousands of encounters EVERY DAY with ideal behavior. If you don't want to interact with them, stay away from drugs, crime in general, and work hard. You will, in all likelihood NEVER have a problem.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:35 pm to
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If you don't want to interact with them, stay away from drugs,


The obvious flaw with your argument is that drugs are awesome.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:36 pm to
Why do you think they call it 'dope'?

dope.
Posted by Kvothe
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:36 pm to
Sure. Now suggest a governing body that could oversee the accountability without being partial.
Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:37 pm to
BLM. They seem to be impartial
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:37 pm to
No
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:37 pm to
The cops have also been shown to have lied repeatedly in these situations. Fortunately for them, they are the enforcers of the law, and they basically can grant immunity to themselves. Seen it time and time again.

No, you haven't. In fact, you can't name a single instance where the police granted themselves immunity.
Posted by jimmywalkeruphere
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:38 pm to
Yep, cops need to start telling the truth before video proves they lied.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:38 pm to
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Now suggest a governing body that could oversee the accountability without being partial.


Well, therein lies your problem. Since government is the only entity that can employ the justifiable use of force, any entity that would oversee the police would have to be part of the government. If not, the police could simply laugh off their findings.

This is pretty basic civics.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 7:40 pm
Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:39 pm to
She has seen it first hand, time and time again.






From her computer
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:39 pm to
My bad I meant that's is one trial that has gone as it was supposed to as opposed to the many that haven't.

I also watched some of the trial..and it was bit gut wrenching. Many of these guys don't set out to gun down citizens. I think some get scared and they panic and shoot. Perhaps because they know the law is in their favor or perhaps because they are trained to view people as criminals and not as humans first.

Either way, I could see how much he regretted his decision and how much it pained him. I think he was truly remorseful for all the pain he has caused the Scotts and his family. He did the right thing and pled guilty. Most of these scumbags will fight it to the death under the guise that they were just "doing their job" and that they have no regret, and that "they did the right thing."

That transactional POV on taking someone's life just makes me want to vomit. It's borderline psychopathic, detached and inhumane really..it's almost as if we are training our cops to soldiers.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:41 pm to
That was my point.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:41 pm to
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Now suggest a governing body that could oversee the accountability without being partial.


So what are you saying? It can't be done?

My point was that if you want those things then you should work towards that goal, protest police beatings, or when they wrongly convict someone, there's plenty of those cases.

My frustrations (and maybe other people's) with BLM and all this shite is that they pick these fights with no stated goals and only seem to seek conflict, not resolution. You can "seek justice" all you want but until you define what that justice is, you're just pestilent children screaming to be heard with nothing to say.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:42 pm to
So do you disagree with the evolving narrative that the current DOJ is racist and found the BR officers to not have infringed on Sterling's civil rights based solely on the fact that they are white and he was black?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:43 pm to
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those who only take up for LEO's when they are involved in a shooting that kills a black guy.


Name names or quit talking out of your arse.


There's a thread on the first page where the cop lied about the car coming at him when he shot the 15 year old. The chief made statements contrary to the officer's account
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:44 pm to
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That was my point.


I'm not sure you have a point.


You want accountability for police but you don't want any level of government (local, state, federal) to do it yet you recognize the fact that no one other than government as the power to do it.

This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 7:46 pm
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:44 pm to
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perhaps because they are trained to view people as criminals and not as humans first.


This is why your posts fail. You can make some valid points but ultimately LOSE because of these kinds of comments. LEOs are NOT trained in this fashion. It is FALSE to say it.

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I think some get scared


I am sure they are....Care to comment as to why they may be scared?
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:44 pm to
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They can literally do anything and get away with it


We can?

BRB. Going to steal a yacht and have sex with Kate Beckinsale.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:46 pm to
The made up stories of stalking folks in a grocery store who use EBT cards are the ones I am sick of hearing.

Everyone tells the same story not realizing that they're repeating Facebook bullshite.
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