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re: Anyone else tired of listening to oil workers bitch about the cost of oil

Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:18 pm to
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Lay off the slow roasting hotdogs and sausage rolls.


frickign n00b. Taquitos or GTFO.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:19 pm to
I just assume all the OT ballers who are happy about cheap gas are lawyers.
Nah I know 90% are plant workers and burger flippers.
Posted by yellowfin
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99043 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:20 pm to
There's also a law that restricts the price a gallon of milk can be sold for. Fresh Market had to quit putting it on sale.
Posted by JJBTiger2012
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:20 pm to
3 yrs? We'll see an upward trend in the 3rd quarter. $50 will be met by the end of 16 to mid 2017. This oil crisis is much bigger than all of us. If it's takes 3 yrs I'll bet the house that we'll watch a Third World War unfold.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:21 pm to
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If it's takes 3 yrs I'll bet the house that we'll watch a Third World War unfold.




Jesus Christ...
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
9014 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:21 pm to
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Unless you're EXTREMELY specialized, most of your work skills are transferable. The details of the job change, but your ability to lead, manage, and produce are 100% transferable to any field.


Disagree. Most of the office workers in the upstream world are not EXTREMELY specialized but they are part of an industry whose skills don't easily transfer. I have a bachelors and masters in my field (no truck nutz) and most would not consider me specialized within the industry but yet if I get laid off I would basically be starting back at square one in any other industry. There are many more people like me in upstream that are at serious risk of being out of a job. Thankfully i've saved up enough to survive for a while in case that happens.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:22 pm to
Real question, if these were doctors and not oil workers who are used to making 200k, and now are making much less, how would the OT feel?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:22 pm to


Found it.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72858 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:25 pm to
Meh. I'm chocked full of confidence
Posted by JJBTiger2012
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:30 pm to
Stout, you disagree? Research the cost of refining and report back. Country's will fall and all of big oil will shut down the pipelines. With descent oil profits comes new developments and exploration. All of which is coming to a halt already.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:32 pm to
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I've seen "predictions" from people presumably in the know all over the place on that point.

Why do you feel it would take that long and why is there such a wide disparity in forecasts?



I will take a shot at it.

Because $50 oil means we won the price war, $50 dollar oil means shale survives at the expense of OPEC's market share.

The price will remain sub $30 for the amount of time it takes to kill off several million BPD of production and that is going to take a while. Simply forcing companies to close a valve (so to speak) that can be reopened rather quickly is not the goal of the stronger party in this dustup.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70164 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:35 pm to
But then all of that chaos would lead to high prices, which will lead to a recovery in the sector.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:36 pm to
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If it's takes 3 yrs I'll bet the house that we'll watch a Third World War unfold.

Jesus Christ...


While WW3 is not that likely a scenario there will be multiple governments go down in flames and many regonal conflicts for sure.

The one big boy that is going to bleed the worst is Russia, they bear (pun intended) watching. If Putin decides to go the conflict/nationalism route to take the pressure of himself things could get a bit dicey.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:37 pm to
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that long and why is there such a wide disparity in forecasts?


Because forecasting global supply and demand perfectly is near impossible. Predicting a slow down in China, Iran sanctions lifted, opec not scaling back production, and mediocre to poor economic growth worldwide would have been damn near prescient 3 years ago.

Predictions out into 2017-2020 fall into that same category, so basically don't take anyone's word for it when oil prices will recover.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
99043 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:37 pm to
Cheap oil already killed Russia once
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:38 pm to
Not necessarily a big boy but Venezuela is only going to turn into more of a shithole. They are basically already over the brink.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:47 pm to
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Not necessarily a big boy but Venezuela is only going to turn into more of a shithole. They are basically already over the brink.


Venezuela is going down but that was likely going to happen even with $100 oil, the financial mess of the Chavenistas is a thread unto itself. They however will not even be noticed by most, sad when you consider the advantages that shithole has.

Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
99043 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:48 pm to
Surprised to see this on cnn

LINK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:49 pm to
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Real question, if these were doctors and not oil workers who are used to making 200k, and now are making much


The problem is that there is no blue collar work in the USA where the workers brag so much about their income. They've created the backlash. People felt this way about UAW folks in the 70's
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
99043 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:52 pm to
Do plant operators fall under the same blanket? Because if not then they are worse
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