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re: Anyone else swearing to never fly a small aircraft after recent tragedies?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 4:26 pm to GCTiger11
Posted on 1/26/20 at 4:26 pm to GCTiger11
I long ago vowed I would never fly in a chopper or doctor killer unless absolutely necessary, i.e. escaping lava from a flowing volcano
So far the situation has never arisen
So far the situation has never arisen
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:18 pm to Dick Leverage
Those are neat planes. Fast too.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:28 pm to 777Tiger
Why? He has been flying a long time and I am not familiar with small aircraft. Is the parachute a safety feature that could save our lives if something went wrong? I might just wuss out and fly commercial and say pick me up at the big plane airport.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:34 pm to GCTiger11
Is it the pilots or in kept aircraft? Better off driving
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:37 pm to GCTiger11
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Between Carley McCord and now this, you couldn’t pay me any amount of money to fly on those fricking things
10-1 odds both crashes are blamed on pilot error.
I’ll take a private plane any day. And I thought (the only) helicopter ride I ever took was a blast. Sign me up.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:45 pm to Kafka
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doctor killer
Hopefully flying mine soon. Upgrading the avionics
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:45 pm to Dick Leverage
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Why? He has been flying a long time and I am not familiar with small aircraft. Is the parachute a safety feature that could save our lives if something went wrong? I might just wuss out and fly commercial and say pick me up at the big plane airport.
Conflict of interest, decisions he will have to make as a pilot could have a negative impact on the business, being the CEO of the company could influence his decision making. For example, the weather is marginal, but he has a meeting scheduled with a potential new customer, if he does not make it to the meeting the customer could go to a competitor costing the company substantial revenue. Will he stay on the ground, or decide to fly with the added risk to get the new business?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:51 pm to EA6B
what he said, shitty move on his part to put you in that position, he's not a professional pilot but is telling you that you must accept him as such as part of your job description
btw: if you get down to the parachute part, you're fricked
btw: if you get down to the parachute part, you're fricked
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:13 pm to GCTiger11
You’re more likely to die in Baton Rouge traffic than a aircraft crash.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:20 pm to GCTiger11
The Sikorsky-76 helicopter that crashed Sunday, killing basketball legend Kobe Bryant, his daughter and seven others was previously owned by the State of Illinois, according to online aircraft database Helis.
The helicopter was manufactured in 1991. Records show it was owned by the State of Illinois from 2007 until 2015 when then-Governor Bruce Rauner put the state’s fleet of aircraft up for sale in a cost-saving measure. While it was owned by the state, the luxury helicopter was used for what’s described as “VIP transport” of the governor and others.
When it flew Illinois governors, the helicopter carried the tail number N76ILL. An online database indicates the tail number was changed to N72EX in 2015 when it was purchased by the Island Express Holding Corporation of Van Nuys, California, the holding company of record at the time of the crash. Flight tracking websites show the helicopter received a new paint-job, including the Nike swoosh logo and Kobe Bryant’s signature “sheath” insignia after the 2015 ownership change.
In 2015, then-Gov. Bruce Rauner said the state received $2.5 million for selling 5 aircraft. The state’s online auction page indicates the helicopter sold for $515,000 and includes photos of the interior and exterior at the time. A spokesperson for Illinois’ Central Management Services, the state agency which handled the sale, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
An FAA database indicates the helicopter had a current airworthiness certificate issued in September 2015. Aircraft tracking site FlightRadar24.com shows the chopper’s final flight path.
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The helicopter was manufactured in 1991. Records show it was owned by the State of Illinois from 2007 until 2015 when then-Governor Bruce Rauner put the state’s fleet of aircraft up for sale in a cost-saving measure. While it was owned by the state, the luxury helicopter was used for what’s described as “VIP transport” of the governor and others.
When it flew Illinois governors, the helicopter carried the tail number N76ILL. An online database indicates the tail number was changed to N72EX in 2015 when it was purchased by the Island Express Holding Corporation of Van Nuys, California, the holding company of record at the time of the crash. Flight tracking websites show the helicopter received a new paint-job, including the Nike swoosh logo and Kobe Bryant’s signature “sheath” insignia after the 2015 ownership change.
In 2015, then-Gov. Bruce Rauner said the state received $2.5 million for selling 5 aircraft. The state’s online auction page indicates the helicopter sold for $515,000 and includes photos of the interior and exterior at the time. A spokesperson for Illinois’ Central Management Services, the state agency which handled the sale, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
An FAA database indicates the helicopter had a current airworthiness certificate issued in September 2015. Aircraft tracking site FlightRadar24.com shows the chopper’s final flight path.
LINK
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:22 pm to schwartzy
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People say driving is more dangerous than flying, and it’s true. However, I have comfort knowing I can control my car. I cant control a plane or helicopter, and I hate that feeling of helplessness.
You can control your car, but you have no control over anyone else driving on that same road. They are the one's you need to concern yourself with.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:23 pm to GCTiger11
quote:If someone offers you a million dollars I think you would change your mind
you couldn’t pay me any amount of money to fly on those fricking things
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:23 pm to GCTiger11
I've decided I'm going to start traveling in a five vehicle motorcade. It's the safest method of transportation.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:24 pm to Kafka
quote:never heard this term
or doctor killer
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:46 pm to EA6B
Not that I will probably ever need to but I can persuade him to stay on the ground if the weather is not good. He is a current client of mine and a good friend at that. But your point is valid nonetheless. He is hiring me to work through those types of issues. In our business, contracts agreed to are most often 6 months to 18 months in the making with several pricing rounds involved if we are up against competition. About 25% of their business is negotiated exclusively with design and engineering assist. Those are the longer deals to take to fruition as the partnership begins much earlier in a schematic phase. I guess my point is that in our industry, we don’t lose business due to pushing a meeting back a day or two. We lose business on pre existing relationships and the successful development of new ones over months or years. And then price has to get right. If we are flying from Atlanta to Dallas/FW or Nashville, Charlotte, etc..we are well ahead of the award date by months.
Believe it or not, we have talked about this and I asked him how safe he was in making a decision to fly private or commercial. I told him I didn’t feel comfortable being the only other guy in the plane and don’t have a clue how to fly it in case something was to happen to him. He made it sound like he is ultra cautious in that regard. I guess I will see how that develops but I just need to know how to deploy the parachute. Not sure what kind of experience that would be but at least I have a fighting chance.
Believe it or not, we have talked about this and I asked him how safe he was in making a decision to fly private or commercial. I told him I didn’t feel comfortable being the only other guy in the plane and don’t have a clue how to fly it in case something was to happen to him. He made it sound like he is ultra cautious in that regard. I guess I will see how that develops but I just need to know how to deploy the parachute. Not sure what kind of experience that would be but at least I have a fighting chance.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:00 am to GCTiger11
Took a small plane in the canadian wilderness about 2hrs outside of Banff it was the scariest time of my life i couldnt get off that thing fast enough.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:08 am to WhiteMandingo
Fog only doesnt confuse car/truck amatuer pilots. Also, confuses pilots in aviation. This just in, water is wet.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:13 am to GCTiger11
never getting in a small plane or helicopter. frick that
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:21 am to NorthTxLSU
Flown in helos offshore many times, never felt unsafe
Flew in a small plane from Laf to Monroe for the top 28 and was white knuckles there and back
Flew in a small plane from Laf to Monroe for the top 28 and was white knuckles there and back
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