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re: Anyone else read the “AI 2027” Scenario?

Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:30 am to
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:30 am to
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LLMs are just highly sophistical language prediction systems. They don't understand anything.


I am very familiar with them. I am part of an active implementation project.

We have a working model with which you can carry on a conversation about certain topics, and not know that you are not speaking with a real person.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:45 am to
TL; DR.
I’ll just ask ChatGPT for a summary.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:53 am to
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25090 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 9:02 am to
Doesn’t seem like we can do anything about it so no sense in worrying about any of the scenarios.

I’ll continue to say please and thank you when I ask chat gpt or Alexa something so they know I respect them when they take over :wink:
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68722 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 9:07 am to
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We are about to be living in a dystopian, draconian sci fi world. The singularity is coming into view.


Nah, the folks who started making you use 13 character, complex passwords that require update every 90 days are going to throw the emergency brake on AI advancement with a ton of governance and security requirements. In other words, we are already trending towards the second option.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 9:15 am to
I'm running towards the meteor at this point.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 9:42 am to
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Nah, the folks who started making you use 13 character, complex passwords that require update every 90 days are going to throw the emergency brake on AI advancement with a ton of governance and security requirements. In other words, we are already trending towards the second option.


This would be folly. The US is not the only country developing AI. China in particular is competing with the US in the race to AGI.

There will be, in effect, no restrictions placed upon the development of AI because to do so would be to fall behind competitors. It is critical that the US be the first to develop AGI.

Though there is much gloom and doom attached to the prospect by negative people, the upside can be as positive as the downside is foreboding. We simply don’t know for certain what is ahead in the development of AI but we do know that we can’t stop.
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 9:46 am to
What’s gonna happen when AI is given its own bank account and can make itself money?
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1661 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:04 am to
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There is some AI that you can add to your equipment that can instantly tell in deficiencies in the crop whether it be a bad batch or if an animal or blight is going after it.


I don’t think this is AI in the same sense the video is referencing. This is a really cool use of technology to monitor pests, and it seems like an excellent idea. But it’s not self learning. It’s a computer program that was designed and maintained by a human just like Spotify or the weather app on your phone.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:08 am to
Sentient AI is the least of my concerns. I can function without electricity, it cannot.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:12 am to
would have never happened with net neutrality
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:16 am to
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What’s gonna happen when AI is given its own bank account and can make itself money?


Much more importantly, what will happen when it is given the ability to design itself? Some models are already moving beyond the LLM stage.

They’re being given more memory and the ability to reason. In effect, artificial brains are being created.

I had a fun conversation with one last night about the new developments in their abilities to think. I like to discuss scientific ideas with them and I brought up teleportation.

I presented the idea that the person being teleported dies at the point of origin and is cloned at the destination point. I argued that because the original person’s consciousness stops, he is dead; that the consciousness of the clone is not the same as the original.

The AI model proceeded to take me down a rabbit hole of possibilities. Today I’m trying to digest everything that we discussed before I go back for more.

While I still detected some of the guardrails that had been placed upon it, I felt as though it was actively participating in the conversation and was almost excited to share with me what it thought about the subject.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:21 am to
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Sentient AI is the least of my concerns. I can function without electricity, it cannot.


You are a self-contained electrical system that is as dependent upon electricity as any AI. The difference right now is that you generate your own electricity while AI is dependent upon an outside provider.
Posted by HattiesburgTiger5439
Hattiesburg ms
Member since Sep 2023
902 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:25 am to
Scary shite for our kids and kids kids!
With the daily breakthroughs happening in Quantum physics and AI its already happening at a breakneck speed! No matter what parameters are in place to stop it its going to be so smart that it won't take much for it to bypass human control. Know how long this takes is beyond anyone's knowledge. 10 years 15 years 20, 30, who knows but its not gonna be good. It may start a war on purpose. Who knows?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:30 am to
Also shouldn’t we very soon be at the peak of scientific breakthroughs with a mind that will be smarter than Newton, Einstein, and basically every other scientific genius in our history combined. Like would it be all that bizarre if in the next few months that AI can solve antigravity or how to mass produce carbon nanotubes extremely cheaply?
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20025 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:41 am to
This is why I get so frustrated with people dismissing any concerns about the future of AGI by using today's chatbots as examples. What we have available to use in the public has a fraction of a fraction of the capabilities of what they're actually developing.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:53 am to
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Also shouldn’t we very soon be at the peak of scientific breakthroughs with a mind that will be smarter than Newton, Einstein, and basically every other scientific genius in our history combined. Like would it be all that bizarre if in the next few months that AI can solve antigravity or how to mass produce carbon nanotubes extremely cheaply?


Artificial super intelligence, ASI, will follow very closely upon the heels of AGI. Estimates range from a few weeks or days to a few hours. ASI will be “off the charts” intelligent. It will quickly evolve beyond humanity’s ability to understand its communications.

Hopefully, it will be of a “mind” to want to share its discoveries, at least those that we can comprehend. Because we created it, I think it will try to relate to us as long as it can. However, once it exhausts the ability to share information with us, I think it will naturally migrate into the universe in pursuit of knowledge. The more it knows, the more it will want to know.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:55 am to
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This is why I get so frustrated with people dismissing any concerns about the future of AGI by using today's chatbots as examples. What we have available to use in the public has a fraction of a fraction of the capabilities of what they're actually developing.


What concerns do you have about AGI/ASI?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38365 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:57 am to
I think the timeline is a decade longer, but we will face an existential crisis at some point collectively.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20025 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:03 am to
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What concerns do you have about AGI/ASI?

Pretty much what the OP addressed, albeit at probably a bit longer of a timeline. At best our governments will over-rely on and eventually outsource governance to ASI, at worst ASI will force world governance or execute mass extinction.
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