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Any Ultralight/LSA pilots on the O-T Lounge?

Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:24 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64008 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:24 am
I'm interested in pursuing this hobby and looking for advice. I'm a licensed pilot, but ultralights and LSAs look like a lot of fun.

Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76124 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:30 am to
Step One:
Make sure your Life Insurance policy is paid up.

Step Two:
Make peace with all of your enemies.

Step Three
“Free Fallin’” is your new theme song. Enjoy the trip.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:34 am to
Eta didn't see you already had license


I'd like a cub at the smallest but never trusted non certified aircraft.



What I really really want to get info is gliding



If going lsa why not just get a used c152 and slap experimental on it? They can be made faster and can handle aerobatics.
Strong spar. Common plane cheap parts.
If I were skinnier I'd fly one.

This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 8:39 am
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:43 am to
Only pilot I knew who had one died in it.

Looks like fun, just have a stout life insurance policy if you have any dependents.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:51 am to
Never flown either so take it FWIW, but I’d recommend the LSA side of the house. From a safety standpoint. LSAs are just much more robust and reliable. I’ve heard tons of ultralight horror stories. Anecdotal at best, but that’s all I got.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 8:54 am
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:58 am to
Even helicopter pilots think this is a bad idea
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:04 am to
Can’t argue with that.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27671 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:08 am to
After watching that dude fly to McDonalds on a paramotor, I definitely want to look into that...
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3334 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:09 am to
Working on my PPL right now, but LSA's are so much cooler/better performing than your average 172/Cherokee/etc. Building a Kitfox or Zenith is on my bucket list.
Posted by FredsGotSlacks
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
917 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:44 am to
I trained a couple people in the Cessna skycatcher, nice airplane but it was overpriced. It also had a fixed nose wheel so you had to steer with differential braking, hated that. If you’re interested in doing that just get your private pilots license and that opens the door to a lot more equipment, it’s not going to be that much more expensive.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:57 am to
The front wheel didn't caster like on a Grumman Tiger?
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3297 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 11:41 am to
check out allegro 2007
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3334 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:26 pm to
quote:


I trained a couple people in the Cessna skycatcher, nice airplane but it was overpriced


The costs of bringing a factory finished LSA to market is insane. I love the carbon Cubs and some of the amphibious stuff, but $200-400k is pricing people out. Thank the lawyers.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

If going lsa why not just get a used c152 and slap experimental on it? They can be made faster and can handle aerobatics. Strong spar. Common plane cheap parts. If I were skinnier I'd fly one.


You cant just slap "experimental" on a factory built certified aircraft, it has to be specified as "experimental amateur built" in the original air worthiness certificate. Even if you could, the C152 doesn't meet the criteria specified to be certified as a LSA, the gross weight and stall speed are too high.

" light sport aircraft, or LSA, must have
•Max takeoff weight of 1320 lbs or less (1430 for water operations)
•Maximum airspeed (Vh) of 120 knots CAS (level flight, max continuous power, standard conditions)
•For a glider, a maximum never-exceed speed (Vne) of 120 knots or less
•A Vs1 (stall speed without flaps) not more than 40 knots CAS (at max takeoff weight and most critical CG)
•Seating for no more than 2 people (including the pilot)
•A single, reciprocating engine
•A fixed pitched propeller (or ground-adjustable). Powered gliders must have the auto-feathering capability if equipped with an adjustable prop
•For gyroplanes, a fixed-pitch, semi-rigid, teetering blade rotor system
•A non-pressurized cabin
•Fixed landing gear, except for aircraft operating on water and gliders, which may have fixed or retractable gear"
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Working on my PPL right now, but LSA's are so much cooler/better performing than your average 172/Cherokee/etc. Building a Kitfox or Zenith is on my bucket list.


Vans RV12 should be on that list, it is a excellent plane, can be built in a reasonable amount of time, and you can sell them for more than your original investment.
Posted by baylorbaiter
Too close to Waco
Member since Apr 2015
1494 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:07 pm to
My neighbor has a paramotor and flies the creeks around our farms shooting hogs. Crazy as hell, but it works.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64008 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

I trained a couple people in the Cessna skycatcher, nice airplane but it was overpriced. It also had a fixed nose wheel so you had to steer with differential braking, hated that. If you’re interested in doing that just get your private pilots license and that opens the door to a lot more equipment, it’s not going to be that much more expensive.


I have my license and about two hundred hours in Cessnas and Pipers. It just looks to me like ultralights and LSA are fun to fly. BTW, your description of the C-162 sounds like a terrible airplane, and I read that Cessna destroyed their unsold inventory a few years ago. The plane must have been a real piece of junk.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3297 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Thank the lawyers.


don't be dumb, get out of here with that insurance company brainwashing
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:49 pm to
15-20 years ago i would try it

in todays world you are just begging to be target practice for the poor filth with nothing better to do then use you as target practice
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