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re: Any Porsche Cayman owners here?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:53 pm to asphinctersayswhat
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:53 pm to asphinctersayswhat
I’ve owned a cayman S 2014, I upgraded the plenum, throttle cable, air filter, sport exhaust, software tube which probably got the Hp up till about maybe 385. This car looked more manly if you will vs the 911 because of the white.
I wanted a little more bump so I went with 911 4S, 2014, 50th anniversary rims and duck tail in white - a beautiful car.
I wanted a little more bump so I went with 911 4S, 2014, 50th anniversary rims and duck tail in white - a beautiful car.
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:53 pm to asphinctersayswhat
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Honestly, I'm not looking to race and I'm not trying be the fastest. I want to get out there and drive as fast as I can...safely.
Even a base 981 Cayman is more car than 99% of the population can exploit. It is also one of the pure joys to drive as is the entire Cayman lineup. Unless one of the 981 GT4s fits into your budget I would look for a 2014-2015 S or a 2015 GTS. Both models strike a really good power-to-handling ratio and are flat out fun to drive. Both have N/A 6 cylinders.
One of the things about buying used Porsches is making a list of the options that are deal breakers for you. The options lists are so long is can produce a long search for "the" car. The first question is manual or PDK, a tough question for many but you WILL be faster on the track with a PDK and you will progress much faster at learning lines. While I resisted for a long time I am a full PDK convert.
They are solid cars reliability wise but every used car is different. I would suggest getting a PPI on any used Porsche it may dash your hopes after finding the perfect car but save you a headache and walletache in the future.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:57 pm to asphinctersayswhat
That makes sense. I’d look into whatever cayman meets your base budget then allocate another 15-20k for tuning/performance upgrades and routine maintenance. Slap slicks on at the track and should be enough. Just don’t want to go pure racing because the car won’t be decent to drive anywhere else.
Eta: and definitely whatever ^^he^^ says
Eta: and definitely whatever ^^he^^ says
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:58 pm to Dragula
I love the 911 but I had more fun and better lap times in the GT4. At my skill level, it was just an easier car for me to drive. It never felt like I was losing control. The GT3RS was incredible though. I've never had adrenaline flow like it did while driving it.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:01 pm to asphinctersayswhat
That’s awesome
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:04 pm to asphinctersayswhat
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I love the 911 but I had more fun and better lap times in the GT4. At my skill level, it was just an easier car for me to drive. It never felt like I was losing control.
I cannot fault that rational, they really are great cars. And truth be told the Cayman mid-engine layout is the better platform, and Porsche knows it. It's just a shame Porsche intentionally handcuffs the Cayman in fear of beating big brother.
Happy hunting
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:13 pm to Obtuse1
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Obtuse1
Thanks for chiming in.
I am mos def going with the pdk. After using it, I don't know why anyone would want a manual.
Looking at the prices, I think the S is gonna fit my budget best since this will be my first Porsche.
What options do you feel are must haves?
I know I want sport crono, sport exhaust, and pasm.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:23 pm to TigrrrDad
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The only added cost is an extra oil change here and there and more frequent tire replacement
Picked up a c5 base model for a song not too long ago. Just how rough is taking it to the track for one of us new idiots?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:26 pm to achenator
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there was a new supra that tapped the wall.
A new Supra tapped the wall at No Problem a few weeks ago. Same car?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:26 pm to asphinctersayswhat
Why do people buy Porsche SUVs?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:30 pm to asphinctersayswhat
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At my skill level, it was just an easier car for me to drive. It never felt like I was losing control.
It doesn't matter if your name is Joe Schmo or Lars Kern the Cayman is an easier car to drive fast compared to a 911, though the engineers in Stuttgart have beaten most of the "911" out of the 911.
The real track day differentiator is cornering speed. Anyone that has high power to weight can go fast on the straights and produce good laptimes. You will often see someone in a high HP car consistently pull away from someone in a prepped Miata only to have the Miata stuck on their rear through the next braking zone and corner.
At the end of the day, it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow. The more comfortable you are in a car and the better it matches your abilities the faster you will be. < while these things are 100% true I nor anyone I know really takes that to heart, everyone I do track days with owns more car than talent
BTW I am not suggesting the Cayman is slow.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:32 pm to shutterspeed
Cayman is a coupe the Cayenne is the SUV
Decent question though
Decent question though
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:32 pm to ELLSSUU
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A new Supra tapped the wall at No Problem a few weeks ago. Same car?
I was told it was at Nola but could have been.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:48 pm to asphinctersayswhat
I have always been a Porsche guy growing up and my best friends dad just got a 2019 911 Turbo S which is wicked fast. That made me look into the Caymans. There was a black 2018 with like 21K miles on it in Baton Rouge a few months ago. I had been watching it for a few weeks and they dropped the price down to $58k one day so I went to go test drive it that day with the intention of buying it. Someone put a deposit on it the second they opened for business that day... ended up getting a Ford Raptor instead but want to still look for a Cayman.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:32 pm to asphinctersayswhat
I bought a 2016 Cayman last year. Solid, precise, fun car.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:37 pm to Hopeful Doc
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Just how rough is taking it to the track for one of us new idiots
Not rough at all. At NOLA Open Track Days, you’re supposed to be in the novice group til you’ve done around a dozen track days. You get 5 sessions at 30 minutes each for the day. The first 2-3 sessions are lead-follow, so basically single file behind a pace car to teach you the lines. The last couple sessions are without a pace car. Once you move to intermediate, there are usually a dozen or so cars on the track with strict passing rules. The biggest factor on an otherwise stock car is the tires. Once you get to the level where you’re running decent lap times, you’ll want some decent tires that are suitable for tracking and daily driving, and you’ll put noticeable wear on them in a track day. I run Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires on my Mach 1. It came with Sport Cups but I practically ate them up in just 1 track day. Aside from the extra tire wear, I just try to get my oil changed every track day or two and use full synthetic.
Most of the cars out there on an Open Track Day (aside from Expert group) aren’t anything real special. While you’ll see a few GT4s out there, you’ll see more Camaros, Mustangs, and especially older BMWs.
There are also the NASA and PCA events out there which have races, time trials, and HPDE. HPDE is where you can have a coach in your passenger seat, and there are different skill levels for that. I strictly do Open Track Days, which are generally the Friday before the Sat/Sun NASA or PCA events. The next one at NOLA is Dec. 2.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:50 pm to ELLSSUU
Doubtful, I don't think the Nola supra is back from the shop yet.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:03 pm to TigrrrDad
Also regarding insurance coverage, it can vary from company to company. A few years back one of the instructors said a woman put a Cadillac CTS-V into the wall. Initially her insurance wouldn’t cover, but he called and explained that the event was not a race, and a track day should be considered performance driver education. Her insurance ended up covering it. My insurance agent told me if it’s something you just do a few times per year, they’d cover it. I’ve never paid a few hundred extra for 3rd party track insurance because I’ve never felt like I was at risk of crashing my car (or having anyone else hit me). Passing rules are strict, and no one wants to wreck their car passing someone on a casual track day.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:30 pm to asphinctersayswhat
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I know I want sport crono, sport exhaust, and pasm.
Those three, PDK, sport plus 18 way seats. I would suggest trying to find both the sport 14 way and sport plus 18 way and compare people are split on them for comfort, the bolsters on the adaptive sport plus hit some people the wrong way. I would not buy a car with the 2 way sport or sport plus, I like a lot of adjustability and I am very picky, I almost got a divorce once because my wife used my key and switched up my seat memory.
PTV would also be on my must have list, not sure how that was optioned on the 981s I think it was standard on the GTS. One might argue the (relatively) low torque of the 981 doesn't need torque vectoring to put down the power. YMMV.
I would not let sport exhaust be a deal breaker on an otherwise perfect car, the exhaust is easy to swap out and there are plenty of great options.
One thing to note when used Porsche shopping is if you take your time you can often get a lot of "free" options. The main options can be make or break and support higher prices in the used market but a lot of them do very little for resale. My previous 911 had about $50k in options on an already highly specced model and I might have paid $5k extra for them used. The car was paint to sample Voodoo blue which is just a tad different from Shark blue so the first owner paid over $8k more for paint to sample over the already expensive "special color" Shark blue but in the end that cost me less than if the car had been for example GT Silver not a lot of blue 911 lovers, though there are more today than in the past. Things like deviated stitching and some of the optional light packages might be nice to own but often don't drive resell up much sucks for the first owner can be cool for the second owner.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 5:36 am to Roy Curado
One thing that completely slipped my mind is that cayman is mid engine and 911 is rear engine and my model is 4S - so each car is a different ride but both are wonderful
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