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re: Any of you D.I.Yers ever build without a permit?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:33 pm to cleeveclever
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:33 pm to cleeveclever
Covered porch and attached roof to house so it's structural, decks and Pergola with outdoor kitchen. None with permits and only notified my HOA of the pergola because it is tall and can be seen from the street. No problems and quiet work in morning and finish up early, keep trash in containers.
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:33 pm to The First Cut
I trust my eyes better than a lot of city inspectors. Especially if you have ever worked around construction.
I have seen electrical approval given without the first box put in.
I have seen electrical approval given without the first box put in.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:36 pm to The First Cut
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You're the guy that buys property without knowing the restrictions and says "I can do what I want this is America"?
Yeah, what an a-hole for spending $250K on his property and then assuming he owns it...
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:37 pm to cleeveclever
Just don't try to sell your house. The Buyer's inspector will probably check.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:39 pm to Dead End
No one forced him to buy in a restricted neighborhood.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:45 pm to fightin tigers
Structural engineers know more too, they still need a permit.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:47 pm to Dead End
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Yeah, what an a-hole for spending $250K on his property and then assuming he owns it...
Why do you think we have building codes in America?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:49 pm to The First Cut
Im not doubting that engineers or inspectors know their stuff. No Doubt permitting is better than not.
The design and inspection phases are not what I worry about, it's the execution.
The design and inspection phases are not what I worry about, it's the execution.
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:53 pm to fightin tigers
It's $125, you don't have to lie, you can't rest easy that no one will shut your job down. It's not worth it to be so cheap to not play by the rules.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:57 pm to cleeveclever
I have experience on both sides. If you are in a rural or suburban parish or community go for it. If you are in a City or Parish with a full regulatory department and staff (EBR, NOLA, Jeff Parish, etc.) you are taking a risk. If you do it, like others have said keep it low key and quiet.
If you do build without a permit, please MAKE SURE you are not violating any building codes, and especially any of the zoning regulations. Most basic building code issues can be fixed after the fact. If you violate the zoning code (height, setbacks, lot coverage)and you can't get an after-the-fact variance they can you make you tear it down.
Additionally, your current neighbors are ok, but what if they sell and in 6 months an a-hole moves in and for some reason reports you?
If you do build without a permit, please MAKE SURE you are not violating any building codes, and especially any of the zoning regulations. Most basic building code issues can be fixed after the fact. If you violate the zoning code (height, setbacks, lot coverage)and you can't get an after-the-fact variance they can you make you tear it down.
Additionally, your current neighbors are ok, but what if they sell and in 6 months an a-hole moves in and for some reason reports you?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:59 pm to The First Cut
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y do you think we have building codes in America?
$$$$
He's only putting a roof on his patio...
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:01 pm to cleeveclever
I rebuilt my picket fence 10ft closer to the sidewalk, but still 19'8" away from it. My bitch of a neighbor ended up calling the parish, and after a couple of thousand dollars in fines, surveys, etc, I got to keep it
If you're cool with your neighbors and nobody can see you building your deck from the road, go for it
If you're cool with your neighbors and nobody can see you building your deck from the road, go for it
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:01 pm to Dead End
Ha! You know little of history. You think any government body actually makes money on those paltry fees?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:02 pm to The First Cut
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It's $125, you don't have to lie, you can't rest easy that no one will shut your job down. It's not worth it to be so cheap to not play by the rules.
My point was only that many permits are just a money grab. It is aggravating. If those type permits provided some actual benefit or advantage I probably wouldn't have such a negative outlook on them.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:12 pm to fightin tigers
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This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:13 pm to fightin tigers
I got fined for putting my fence 19'8" from the sidewalk, when it is supposed to be 20ft. Out of the 8 houses on my block, 6 of them have fences within 10ft of the sidewalk, most within 5ft, and one is a foot. Mine is furthest back, looks the best, only took me a day to move forward, and I still got fined for multiple things like fence too close, no permit, gate too close to park a full sized truck in the driveway when it's closed, no walkway gate (I don't have a walkway). I also got fined for not tearing it down. I ran it over with my truck that night, and the inspector came and told me not to touch it again. Two days later, I got fined for having construction debris in my yard. Then, I had to spend $600 on getting a survey, three days losing in court, and still had to get the permits. Yeah, it's a racket
They even want you to get a permit to put a new toilet in your house
They even want you to get a permit to put a new toilet in your house
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:20 pm to AUbagman
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As people flock to subdivisions "thoroughly inspected" where builders can't even install a dryer vent correctly.
It really is amazing what passes for inspectors. Both city/code enforcement guys and the independent guys. I have seen some that couldn't build a house out of legos much less actually enforce codes. I have also seen them interpret the codes to suit their little dick syndrome just to be an arse to people and make up for being picked on growing up.
I only ever met one that really knew his stuff and that was because he was an actual contractor at one point.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:25 pm to cleeveclever
It could cause a problem. A general home inspection will likely not go looking for permits. I am pretty sure one addition on my current house was not permitted, not that uncommon. They have the option of buying with that knowledge.
When selling you have to disclose if additions/renovations were permitted. Most people lie and say they were, usually though they do not know one was needed for renovations they completed.
For instance, your A/C goes out on Friday night and the repair guy can replace it first thing Saturday. You need a permit. Gotta wait until Monday. (Or apppy for after the fact, and pay applicable fines)
When selling you have to disclose if additions/renovations were permitted. Most people lie and say they were, usually though they do not know one was needed for renovations they completed.
For instance, your A/C goes out on Friday night and the repair guy can replace it first thing Saturday. You need a permit. Gotta wait until Monday. (Or apppy for after the fact, and pay applicable fines)
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:30 pm to stout
The inspector I hired when I bought my house missed plumbing, electrical, and HVAC stuff all over the house and shop that was blatantly obvious. I noticed multiple things he didn't see, and I'm not a contractor
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:32 pm to The First Cut
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Why do you think we have building codes in America?
Because insurance companies forced them onto people so they could charge you the same premium but reduce their liability on damages thus making more profit.
There were no inspectors in many Parishes in LA for a long time until after Rita and Katrina and the insurance companies threatened to pull out unless a statewide code was adopted and enforced.
I know because I built in a Parish with no inspectors pre-hurricanes and I remember the headache it was when the Parish was trying to get the code office started to comply with the state.
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