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Any BBQ Guru owners here? Looking at a temp regulator for stick burner

Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
Member since Sep 2003
7356 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:23 pm
Anyone running the BBQ Guru or other temperature regulators for your stickburner? I am looking at the BBQ guru, Perfect Draft or one of the cheaper models.

I haven't run a cook since I modded out my Ok Joe but it was a lot of work to maintain temps before them. Just looking to see if it is worth the money for one of these cheapo smokers.

Thanks.

For those who got the highland rig on the Wal-Mart deal, what have you done so far?

I have added gasket to doors, dropped an elbow joint in to bring the exhaust closer to the grate, did the baffle mod using the grates from firebox, replaced therm, added latches, and got the firebox. Everything should be done and cured by this weekend, just curious if I should invest in this so I can hit my Super Bowl marks.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39215 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:28 pm to
If only there was a place to ask food related questions.....

Hmmmm
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
2558 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:30 pm to
I have one it works great and has no trouble keeping my KJ and whatever temp I set it at. I have the Digi Q FWIW
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Anyone running the BBQ Guru or other temperature regulators for your stickburner?


I've got a temp regulator for my stickburner. It's called a outdoor chair, ice chest of beer, and MYSELF.

You bought that type of BBQ pit and you don't want to tend it? Sell it and buy one of those automatic pellet burners. Or better yet, just buy the already cooked meat.

You made all these mods and are hoping to hit it right without a practice run for the Super Bowl?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11629 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:38 pm to
I have a Party Q that I switch between my BSK and my homemade smokers I created from Weber Kettles. It works great on all 3 of them.

We used to use one of the earlier models of a Digi Q on our comp trailer a few years ago and it also worked really well. All in all, BBQ Guru products are top notch.

The key with getting them to work on some oddball/non design specific smokers is to figure out your exhaust vent settings and also to approach your set temp in increments.

For instance if you want to cook at 240, don't just start it at 240 and let it blow away, sometimes it will give more air and you will overshoot the temp. I always start for 180, let the temp stabilize and move up in 20 degree increments until I reach target temp.
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1710 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:17 pm to
I have one for my Primo Oval XL and it works great. I think you'd have to have a pretty big fan motor for a stick burner though. You will also need an adapter to fit the firebox. Shoot them an e-mail and ask if they have kits for your smoker.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58613 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:19 pm to
if you are into DIY look into a heatermeter.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46661 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:23 pm to
I'm running a DigiQ, but for my WSM so not exactly what you're asking. However, it's a great product and keeps temps rock solid at exactly what temp I set it to.

It's well worth the money.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:39 pm to
My buddy legit makes the best brisket I've ever had and I have eaten at almost the top bbq in Texas.

I've never seen him check temperature once and he always leaves the firebox door wide open. He mainly judges things based on how his smoke looks. The goal is a thin smoke not heavy white smoke. His stick burner doesnt even have a temp gauge.

On a stick burner, the key is airflow and lots of it.(Franklin even says this in his book) Try for a small fire that fully combust the wood and dont get caught up on temp to much. As long as your not up to grilling temps you are ok and the bbq will be done when its done. You will have to tend the fire if you keep it small but you knew that when you decided on a stick burner.

I have a bbq guru for my big green egg and it keeps perfect temp. Eggs are a lot different then stickburners. Eggs are closer to an outdoor oven then it is to a stickburner.

It seems your trying to make a smoker into an oven. A smoker should move lots of air. A oven doesn't.

Based on what you've done so far, I would be worried you dont have enough air flow. A controller would just restrict that more in my opinion and the controller seems like it would need a large fan to make a stick burner work right.

This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 4:08 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61691 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:46 pm to
I agree 100 percent with everything you said
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58613 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

My buddy legit makes the best brisket I've ever had and I have eaten at almost the top bbq in Texas.

I've never seen him check temperature once
bullshite.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7472 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:58 pm to
quote:


Any BBQ Guru owners here? Looking at a temp regulator for stick burner
quote:
My buddy legit makes the best brisket I've ever had and I have eaten at almost the top bbq in Texas.

I've never seen him check temperature once
bullshite.


That all depends on his smoker.

I make amazing brisket on my Pit Barrel and never do anything about temp. Yes, I do monitor it, but no real adjustments are made.

This is all due to the nature of how the Pit Barrel cooker works. Once I get my temp stable, it stays there till the brisket hits 203.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:59 pm to
Temp is one important factor but to many people try to nail a perfect temp. If you are between 225 and 275ish and give the meat the correct time you will have great bbq.

Case in point, Smittys in Lockhart cooks a brisket in around 8 hours at around 275 to 300 degrees, Right down the street at Blacks they cook slower and longer at around 12 to 15 hours.

Both places have perfectly great brisket because the have thier seasoning and fire management down to a science. There pits get plenty of air and not much bad smoke.

Whether you are low and slow or fast and hot get your color set on your brisket and then wrap it so it doesn't get over smoked. Its ready when it feels like sticking a knife in butter.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61691 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:00 pm to
Ive produced great bbq with no temp control and shitty barbque with perfect temps.

The key is airflow. That is why Franklin makes his smoke stack huge. He wants air moving. If you don’t you get an acrid smoke that is off putting
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 5:02 pm
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

bullshite


I've never seem him check smoker temps but he does know his pit. Of course we check food temps. All I'm saying is great bbq can be produced between 225 ish up to 275 ish. Focus on that range and you are good to go.

OP seems be reducing airflow to maintain a perfect 225 and I think that might choke off to much airflow.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
10340 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:19 pm to
I have the BBQ Guru. I can install it on my WSM and the stick burner. Stick burners are a different animal, as it is about the airflow. My stick burner was not set up reverse flow, so when I used the SB with the guru, it ran through some fuel with the quickness. I typically used it when I would want to get some sleep and preferred to manually maintain the temp during my waking hours. So for peace of mind while sleeping, it'd worth the investment especially since you will be working with reverse flow. It is incredible when used for long cooks on my WSM and produces outstanding results, so much so that I sold off my large stick burner due to lack of use.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:42 pm to
I cooked on a Lang once with a 25CfM fan set up with a Stoker. Not sure what you are cooking on, but temp controllers work with ceramics, gravity feed smokers, and vertical insulated, but not so much with a big offset. You either have to add a split every 45-75 minutes like you normally would or you have to load up the firebox with fuel that causes way too much smoldering and inefficient combustion. This is my experience with trying one on a big Lang stickburner.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
Member since Sep 2003
7356 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:16 pm to
Thanks for the input everyone. I have an older offset. Was looking for that experience but not baby sit overnight.
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