re: Anti-vaccine advocates appointed to Minnesota autism council after measles outbreak

My pediatrician recommended a slightly delayed vaccine schedule. We had a long discussion with him on what we were getting and what were the potential side effects of each one. It was a very refreshing conversation.

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Officials in Minnesota have appointed anti-vaccine advocates to a newly formed state council on autism, sparking controversy in the wake of a record measles outbreak in the state.

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This is like a firehouse hiring active out spoken arsonists after an up tick in house fires.

And as a father of a child who had immune problems as an infant, let me give a clear and honest frick you to every single piece of human shite anti-vaxer out there. I hate every one of you.

Vaccines do not cause autism. This is a fact. Anyone who believes that is a moron. And the person who conducted and publicized that horrendous study is a perfect example of everything wrong with the modern scientific community and social medias ability to completely manipulate and obfuscate an issue.

Vaccines work through the principle of herd immunity. You start weakening that herd immunity and you get disease outbreaks.

But of course the Progressives in this country don't believe children's lives are worth anything and would gladly sacrifice as many young innocent defenseless lives as needed to virtue signal their nonsensical emotion based views.

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And as a father of a child who had immune problems as an infant, let me give a clear and honest frick you to every single piece of human shite anti-vaxer out there. I hate every one of you.

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The ironic thing is I’ve had met the exact opposite parent. There are people out there that have experienced the extremely rare severe side effects of a vaccine on their child. It really is a miserable feeling knowing you agreed to it.

Yes. I know.

There was one antivax subhuman garbage parent in my daughter's daycare who lied to the school and forged immunization records. The school let us know when they found out and I went blind with anger. This particular parent was a lunatic always trying to talk politics at pickup time and running her mouth about some nonsense such as :

"most scientists agree all of southern Louisiana will be under water by 2030"

Or

"I read encouraging little boys to play with dolls can help them believe in gender equality as they get older"

Two things I actually heard that moron say

Thank God my daughter didn't catch anything but I have never been so mad in my life. I'm mad now just thinking about it.

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I am surprised you posted that after almost dying from one.

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I still believe in them though.

Don't read so much into posts here. Half the crap I post is just to get a laugh or rise out of someone.

I truly am glad your child is ok, I'd freak out if my son had a seizure.

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Ok I’ll play. Care to share your data or are you just spitballing?

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I had actually downloaded the data and browsed it manually searching for varicella and chickenpox entries, and reading the data, before my last post. I guess you could call that spitballing. But I went ahead and merged the data from 95-98 and found all the entries containing either "varicella" or "chicken". I only found 2,896 cases instead of the 6,574 the NVIC did, but maybe they used additional search terms that I don't know about, so I'll give them that. In my data, I found 6 deaths, or 0.21% of cases, which is exactly the same death rate among the cases they found, so I'll give them that, too.

So they probably aren't straight up lying about the data, but I wouldn't expect them to because it's too easy to verify. Instead, what they are trying to establish is a causal link, which just doesn't seem to exist.


Let me talk about the deaths first. Of the 6 I found, 1 was only a couple months old and already had pneumonia, and 1 was a 15 year old with a host of issues, including microcephaly, cerebral palsy, quadriplegia, mental retardation, and he also had pneumonia at the time of death. One man was 34 with leukemia that was apparently undiagnosed prior. One kid was 3 months old and had a wheeze since birth. One man was 38 and had already had chickenpox before he was vaccinated, and I'm no doctor and this data can be hard to read, but my understanding is he tested negative for chickenpox at the time of death. The only death in this data that appears to be directly related to the varicella vax straight up says "died from complications of varicella vax". But of course, that is one of the few entries that doesn't list the age or sex of the patient, nor any medical history data, vax date, or onset date. So forgive me for being suspicious.

Now, of my 2,896 cases, only 1,014 reported symptoms within 6 weeks of receiving the vaccine, and nearly 1,200 of them had received the vaccine over a year prior to their visit. The data includes patients who developed chickenpox several years after receiving the vaccine. This is to be expected given that vaccines are not 100% effective.


So, basically, what we have here is a list of people for whom the chickenpox vaccine did not work. It does not at all imply that the chickenpox vaccine is unsafe. Rather, this data simply includes people who would have gotten chickenpox with or without the vaccine, and suffered the results regardless.

And we are left with the simple fact that since we started giving chickenpox vaccines, the deaths due to chickenpox has dropped from about 100 per year down to just a handful. How that simple truth can get warped into "vaccines bad" is beyond me.

Minnesota: shithole

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Let’s just not confuse the measles or mumps with the freaking plague.

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People like you have blood on their hands...ignorant fricks.