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re: Annual JonBenet Ramsey Theories Thread

Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:05 am to
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:05 am to
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The recent episodes were interviews with one of the investigators that is 100% convinced it was an intruder.


as stated in this thread, the intruder theory makes zero sense and all evidence points to burke.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:28 am to
It was pretty comical how they went all in on the basement window and the suitcase claiming it had to be an intruder because John said the suitcase didn’t belong there.
Posted by NastyNatiNole
Member since Sep 2014
760 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:04 pm to
Missys body was found inside the church according to Midlothian PD. Was the husband not caught on video?

"Midlothian Police has also not revealed where they crossed paths. It is believed that the suspect murdered Bevers in a violent encounter inside the church"
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted by WhiteRussianDude
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 7:06 pm to
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again as a complete noob here....how does any of this prove on insinuate he killed her? he could very well have fixed bowl, even fed her. doesn't mean anything outside of that happened


1) because both parents testified she was asleep when they got home and took her strait to bed

AND

2) it places her and Burke (awake) together immediately prior to her death.

You’re welcome.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 3:56 pm to
Bump. It happened 27 years ago tonight.
Posted by DoctorWorm
Member since Jul 2021
1623 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:07 pm to
I think Burke hit her with the flashlight at about the time she eating the pineapple. Parents freaked and went overkill to save their son's future. Ransom note was written by Patsy. They didn't cooperate with police.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:14 pm to
Col. Mustard in the study with a candle holder.

Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:36 pm to
Many years ago, my wife’s friend that was a real psychic,( helped police find missing kids etc, until big fallout with CIA over a now public scandal incident, didn’t do for money), had nightmares about a little blonde girl being molested and killed by a man in a Santa suit repeatedly for about 6 months before this happen. When it was in the news she said she was the girl in her dreams.

She was right about everything else so I would bet 100k on she was killed by a man in a Santa suit.


Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 5:20 pm to
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True Crime garage completely blew this story. They have little understanding of DNA vs. touch DNA. and the reporting was Biased from the onset. the reason there was NO intruder DNA is because there was no intruder. All the DNA in that house belonged to the family (as it would, of course)

If you want a better understanding of the case, in greater detail, by someone involved with the case. Foreign Faction by A. James Kolar. I've read several, his was the 'light bulb' for me.

Burke did it. He had previous history of violence against his sister, including an assault with a golf club the year before. He's smear his shite all over her toys and gifts. He left a giant poop in her bed. I think he is likely autistic. The Grand Jury voted unanimously to press charges against the family for covering up the crime, altering the crime scene, false statements, etc.. The DA refused to bring charges in spite of the GJ recommendation. They figured he was only 9 at the time, there is no perp at large that would threaten the community, and the family had suffered enough.

All signs point to Burke. That DNA found on JB's underwear was so miniscule they initially didn't have enough to even put it in the database (if memory serves, only like 9 markers). By comparison the DNA services like Ancestry test over 7,000. The touch DNA literally could have been from whomever packed her underwear into the packaging in China and entirely irrelevant to the case. It keeps getting floated out there by the family whenever someone starts sniffing around Burke again.


This is a interesting thread and it's been a fun read. I never really followed this case.

There's alot to potentially respond to so I'm just gonna stick with your take. It's a good one.

The scatolia (playing in one's feces) is often associated with developmental delays and/or sexual trauma. There's a good chance that Burke was sexually abused. I wonder if that was ever explored?

Did the Ramsey's ever donate to the DA's campaign or have any influential connections who could've held sway with the DA?

Now there are some other things that have been touched on in this thread and couple of them, I think can be explained.

For instance.

Why wouldn't Burke's finger prints be on the bowl of pineapple? It's reasonably possible that at some point in the day Burke reached for a bowl to feed himself something, thought differently and simply put the bowl back, only to be used by Jean Benet many hours later.

Also, someone stated it didn't make sense for an intruder to hide in the house 45 minutes or longer, waiting to kill the child. Why does that not make sense? It's a gargantuan house and a very easy place to hide and wait.

This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:59 pm to
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Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:09 pm to
Here are my most important facts:

1. There is almost no significant evidence or even a motive/plan for an intruder that makes sense.
2. Everything about the note and ransom makes no sense.
3. The family contaminated the crime scene and so did the police.

Can someone help me understand the intruder theory?

A guy wanted to kill her (with objects from the home) over a period of several hours in her house, write a ransom note from items in the home, and then leave the body in a location that only the father could find it (not the police).

Makes no sense at all.
Posted by schatman
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Member since Nov 2018
2958 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:14 pm to
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The killer of the fitness instructor is known. The fat woman dressed in police gear didn’t kill her. She was simply looking out and providing footage. The fat woman’s husband killed bee right outside the door. The fat woman’s hubby and the fitness instructor were sleeping together. The fatty and hubby moved to New York shortly after.



Do you have some info on this one? I've always been curious.
Posted by SECMeanSmore
Member since Dec 2023
117 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:21 pm to
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I think Burke hit her with the flashlight at about the time she eating the pineapple.


Careful, he made CBS pay out the arse for such speculation.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22966 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:36 pm to
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Can someone help me understand the intruder theory?

A guy wanted to kill her (with objects from the home) over a period of several hours in her house, write a ransom note from items in the home, and then leave the body in a location that only the father could find it (not the police).

Makes no sense at all.


It doesn't make any sense. The unknown DNA is the only piece of evidence that gives the intruder theory any legs, and the longer we go without a DNA match the more unlikely it is that the DNA pulled off her body and clothes is truly from an "unknown male."
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Member since Jul 2019
4066 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:41 pm to
My DNA expertise is just barely above zero, and I know enough about its testing to make a fool of myself, but I feel that DNA tech will be able to trace us all in the future. I also feel that in the future Big Brother's world, test results can and will be cross-referenced.

Somewhere, the donor of the DNA in her underwear could possibly be identified if he ever has a test done.

I know of at least two families that have been wrecked over DNA test results.
Posted by WhiteRussianDude
Member since Feb 2023
409 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:08 pm to
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DNA and the STUN GUN marks on her back is strong evidence


No stun gun models were ever produced to match the marks on her back, but Burke’s nearby model train tracks did. As if they didn’t want to touch her body and used the tracks to manipulate her positioning. unknown DNA was such a tiny portion of a minuscule amount it could have come from touching an article of clothing. Not significant in anyway except for the family to keep fanning conspiracy theory’s each year.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22966 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:20 pm to
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unknown DNA was such a tiny portion of a minuscule amount it could have come from touching an article of clothing. Not significant in anyway except for the family to keep fanning conspiracy theory’s each year.


There was also unknown male DNA found under her fingernails which is a bit harder to explain away.
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