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re: Annual inflation rate in Venezuela has risen to 43,378%
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:08 am to SeeeeK
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:08 am to SeeeeK
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Ever taken a gander at the taxes they pay? It's criminal. And their Country is in a mess because of Immigration, a huge f'in mess.
Yes, it's extremely high. However, their government actually works for the most part and doesn't squander 90% of it like what happens here. They don't go 50k or 100k in debt for college. It's a homogeneous population. Or was, we'll see what the immigration does. Won't be anything good, that's for sure.
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:10 am to Centinel
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:15 am to SeeeeK
quote:No it isnt
And their Country is in a mess because of Immigration, a huge f'in mess.
Get off of fox news
quote:Thats kind of a principal part of socialism dude
Ever taken a gander at the taxes they pay? It's criminal.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:17 am to lsupride87
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It has actually worked in a few places
Sweden has done aight
This is a fallacy. Their government can focus their dollars on "socialist" pet programs because they have a homogeneous population and no defense.
Taxes are higher in the US than Sweden (24% higher for individuals and 52% for corporations). Most of these Scandinavian countries that get labeled as socialism working have some of the most aggressive business/tax friendly policies in the world.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:36 am to SeeeeK
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And their Country is in a mess because of Immigration, a huge f'in mess.
Yeah, but maybe not in the sense you mean. It's a mess cause anyone with an education and the means is immigrating to Miami or Houston. A brain drain of epic proportions.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:40 am to skullhawk
quote:My friend who I visit pays 56% in taxes
Most of these Scandinavian countries that get labeled as socialism working have some of the most aggressive business/tax friendly policies in the world.
That feels pretty socialist to me
ETA: He is a doctor. He lives in a small modest house with a small modest car
His neighbor who works the grounds at their golf course which is closed 3 months of the year lives in an almost identical house with identical car
I could get lost because every house was the exact same.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:42 am to lsupride87
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Thats kind of a principal part of socialism dude
No, that's redistribution.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
Sweden is strange
The are pro capitalism for business, but they tax the individual high but provide pension, health, education through PHD programs, child care, and a ton of holidays
The are pro capitalism for business, but they tax the individual high but provide pension, health, education through PHD programs, child care, and a ton of holidays
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:54 am to GetCocky11
Oh the names I was called a decade ago by the usual suspects when I pointed out the obvious direction Venezuela was headed. Humans NEVER learn .
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:55 am to lsupride87
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Sweden is strange
All political systems fall somewhere on the continuum between fascism and communism. There is no one-size-fits-all socialism. Sweden's system works just fine for them.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:56 am to lsupride87
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but they tax the individual high but provide pension, health, education through PHD programs, child care, and a ton of holidays
Yep. They charge you for those services. I believe on your check stub that stuff is itemized.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:58 am to lsupride87
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That feels pretty socialist to me
The Scandinavian countries have market economies but they are big government nanny states
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I guess my point is they may not meet the actual definition for socialism, but from my experience they meet the socialism from a colloquial view that I have
Yep. They charge you for those services. I believe on your check stub that stuff is itemized.
THe majority of people live the same lives no matter being a physician or garbage driver. The majority has enough for a comfortable easy going life but not a rich life. I dont see many poor nor rich people
The parks, museums, schools, and transportation run by the govt paid for by the people all seem to run smooth and efficiently etc etc
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 11:00 am
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:59 am to islandtiger
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All political systems fall somewhere on the continuum between fascism and communism
It's actually more like this
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/28/18 at 11:03 am to islandtiger
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All political systems fall somewhere on the continuum between fascism and communism.
If you actually knew jack shite about either of them you’d know there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between communism and fascism. They’re two sides of the same coin.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 11:35 am to SeeeeK
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And their Country is in a mess because of Immigration, a huge f'in mess.
You have clearly not actually been to Sweden. Don't believe everything you read online, especially what you already want to hear.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 11:41 am to jmarto1
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So how much are the hookers? Asking for a friend
You could probably get laid if you have a hamburger.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 11:45 am to fallguy_1978
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The Scandinavian countries have market economies but they are big government nanny states
The problem seems to be when the government decides that what is best is to steal from the rich to give to the poor. What we're seeing in Venezuela now is right out of "Atlas Shrugged" - the people who actually knew how to generate wealth got out when they could and now the military runs what little is left.
For example, under Chavez gasoline was incredily heavily subsidized and poor people were literally given houses. That got him (and Maduro) lots of votes but there's only so much money to redistribute.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:07 pm to GetCocky11
Hmm - looks like we have a rival forLouisiana auto, property, flood and medical insurance rate increases.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:25 pm to lsupride87
Sweeden isn't real socialism. They're a social democracy. They are only partially socialist (ie: healthcare).
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 12:26 pm
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