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re: America’s Most Prolific Logger Recasts Itself as Environmental Do-Gooder
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:18 pm to X123F45
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:18 pm to X123F45
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Cyclic logging is a good thing.
Eh, some methods are. And no one can deny we need the fiber.
However the newish way to manage some pine plantations by spraying select herbicide which only allows pines to grow and some shitty grass is awful for most wildlife.
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:21 pm to SaintsTiger
Trees are an agricultural product.
No more. No less.
No more. No less.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:36 pm to Lugnut
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May I ask, what program this is under? Or company? I’m very interested to know
I should have clarified you are paid through deductions and leases.
But mississippi state actually has a great breakdown
pdf of timber tax
In louisiana I lease the same 14 acres to loggers every five years. They come in, look at it. Like it. Lease it. And inevitably realize it's too wet to log more than the first 100 feet effectively.
They keep the front full of new growth willow and the back stays cypress.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:39 pm to NewIberiaHaircut
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+ controlled burns.
We burned 1200 acres or so by accident about 15 years ago.
It is visibly healthier by satelite.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:41 pm to X123F45
On a separate note, frick Weyerhaeuser. Carpetbagging sons of bitches who screw loggers and everyone else when they can.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:46 pm to SaintsTiger
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.*
* disclosure - yes, I own shares in our nation’s largest land holding publicly traded company, WY
* disclosure - yes, I own shares in our nation’s largest land holding publicly traded company, WY
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:48 pm to SaintsTiger
Keeping up with the Joneses…
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:56 pm to beerandt
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the 2 best ways we have to sequester carbon are logging and plastic.
Tell me more. Especially about plastics.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:04 pm to Snoop Dawg
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disclosure - yes, I own shares in our nation’s largest land holding publicly traded company, WY
As does just about anyone with a 401K.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:17 pm to Jimbeaux
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Especially about plastics
What's to tell?
It's carbon dense, and usually long term stable out of sun light.
Take "recycling" plastic, melt it as dense as you can and get rid of some of the impurities and stabilize it, then put it in a landfill.
Done. Take credit for "sequestering" that amount of carbon perpetually.
The serious talk about this though only wants to do it once we can pull carbon from the air, and turn it into "artificial" plastic. Otherwise they see it as a wash that competes with all the other current schemes, both carbon and recycling.
Bonus is it's a long term material and/or energy storage, so if you ever decide that all this climate stuff is BS, you can reharvest it and reclaim most of its value.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:02 pm to SaintsTiger
Trees die, might as well cut them down and use them.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:14 pm to Art Vandelay
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Trees die, might as well cut them down and use them.
If you don't, they rot and you lose the carbon storage.
Use them as timber, and the carbon storage lasts roughly as long as the structure does. Or as long as whatever the final use is.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:27 pm to SaintsTiger
Carbon tax credits are the current version of Abbott and Costello's skit of Who's on First, with the federal government lackeys laughing in the balcony after flying into the performance in private jets.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:07 am to X123F45
How did the forest ever survive without us here to chop it down every few years
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:18 am to SaintsTiger
It’s hilarious how much money will be made off of this racket.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:31 am to biglego
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How did the forest ever survive without us here to chop it down every few years
For one, fires burned. Uncontrolled. Now, you have an entire gauntlet of resources to protect homes, businesses, etc. built, essentially, in the forest.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 7:01 am to armsdealer
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Deep in an old growth forest is a beautiful thing. We don't need to cut down all the old trees. I am not against logging, just really like strolling through some old growth hardwoods
Cognate NP exists for this reason.
I do agree with you though.
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