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re: Americans Bought Enough Guns on Black Friday to Arm the Marine Corps – Yet Again!

Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46697 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:39 pm to
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So stopping the sale of some guns is stopping the sale of all guns?


You said no one is wanting to stop the sale of guns. This is patently false.

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The Constitution guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. It does not guarantee the right to obtain said arms with little to no hoops to obtain them.


Shall not be infringed. Do you understand this term?







Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37592 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:44 pm to
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You said no one is wanting to stop the sale of guns. This is patently false.


Jesus tapdancing christ. You're trying to split hairs here and we both know what was being a) implied and b) flat out said by many in this thread. Continuing to remove my qualifier "all" to try and muddy the water is ridiculous. No one is saying they want to stop the sale of all guns. Come on, you can admit that's the case (because it is)

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Shall not be infringed. Do you understand this term?


Yup. So in your opinion those rights have already been infringed by things like having to be a certain age to buy a gun, show ID, undergo a background check, take a gun safety course, etc? All things that some or many states already have in place. Do you disagree with all of those things?

Also, that is a term of intense legal debate.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74629 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:46 pm to
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Huh. Yet 25 years later I still have my guns.


Well it’s not due to lack of effort from the Democrats trying to take them away.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46697 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:47 pm to
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You're trying to split hairs here and we both know what was being a) implied and b) flat out said by many in this thread.


I'm not talking about "many in this thread". I'm talking about what you said. You said no one is trying to stop the sale of guns. Again, this is patently false.

Maybe you should be more clear with your assertions?

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Yup. So in your opinion those rights have already been infringed by things like, having to be a certain age to buy a gun, show ID, undergo a background check, take a gun safety course, etc? All things that some or many states already have in place. Do you disagree with all of those things?


Yes.

Shall not be infringed. It's pretty damn clear. That is unless you don't like the language and want to ignore it.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:49 pm to
You're probably wasting your time. He thinks certain guns should be banned based on how "scary" they look and not their actual function.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46697 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:51 pm to
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He thinks certain guns should be banned based on how "scary" they look and not their actual function.


Well of course he does. I just want him to admit it.

Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:55 pm to
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lking about what you said. You said no one is trying to stop the sale of guns


No. No he didn’t.

He started with no one is trying to confiscate. Which was the position of the OP.

And he used “all” repeatedly. No one is trying to stop the sale of all guns. But you keep pretending that he didn’t.

Just like you keep avoiding discussing Trump.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 5:56 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37592 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:56 pm to
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I'm not talking about "many in this thread". I'm talking about what you said. You said no one is trying to stop the sale of guns. Again, this is patently false.


Can you quote my post directly where I allegedly said this?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37592 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:57 pm to
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their actual function.


Which is what exactly?
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
3091 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:01 pm to
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crayons and glue

Why bother. They eat the glue and I never met a marine that could color inside the lines.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46697 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:02 pm to
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Just like you keep avoiding discussing Trump.


From Page 10:

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Where did I give Trump a pass on this? He can eat a bag of dicks right along with the rest of the people who selectively care about constitutional rights.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37592 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:02 pm to
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Well of course he does. I just want him to admit it.


I'm all in favor of doing something, because the status quo you're defending so fervently with false claims of "they want to take all my guns" isn't working.

But when one side won't even have a conversation it's simply more of the same.

And then it'll happen again and the whole process will start once more (it's like Dark)...and you will all say "mental health!!" and then not do anything to improve that either.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:02 pm to
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Which is what exactly?

You think a bayonet lug makes a rifle deadlier. Game over.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:03 pm to
Sweet avoidance of your lie.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37592 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:03 pm to
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bayonet lug


I have no clue what that is, so take another stab at something I supposedly believe.

ETA: You didn't answer my question.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

I'm all in favor of doing something, because the status quo you're defending so fervently with false claims of "they want to take all my guns" isn't working.

But when one side won't even have a conversation it's simply more of the same.

And then it'll happen again and the whole process will start once more (it's like Dark)...and you will all say "mental health!!" and then not do anything to improve that either.

So the solution is the ban certain guns based solely on how "scary" they look. Brilliant.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:04 pm to
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I have no clue what that is, so take another stab at something I supposedly believe.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46697 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:05 pm to
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I'm all in favor of doing something, because the status quo you're defending so fervently with false claims of "they want to take all my guns" isn't working.

But when one side won't even have a conversation it's simply more of the same.


When one side won't have a conversation.

Interesting. One side compromised in 1934, 1938, 1939, 1968, 1986, and 1994. Where did the other compromise?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:06 pm to
Still avoiding your lie:



“Some context that I think you choose to conveniently ignore... all sales of all guns?

I'll hang up and listen”
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:07 pm to
“I was lead to believe these candidates want to confiscate all guns and ban the sale of all guns. “
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