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re: American Murder: Watts family homicides

Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:44 am to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:44 am to
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Obviously from all the replies we can't talk about anything Shannan did without it being a 100% implied statement that we endorse Chris murdering his family

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Obviously what he did is frowned upon, but she's not without blame
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:46 am to
She was a narcissist. Anyone that thinks the world needs to see everything in her life on facebook certainly is.
However, I would have divorced her...not killed her and two kids.
Before Facebook she would just be a gossipy bitch....facebook gave her and everyone else a platform.

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:54 am to
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Disinviting them from their grandchild's birthday party, etc., qualifies as crazy in my book.

I guess you missed the part about the inlaws not showing up to their wedding because they didn't like her.

There's probably a whole lot more to the story than the fricking cookie incident. That one situation wasn't so much about the cookie as much as it had built up to that and she decided to use that as an outlet to her emotions.

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Disinviting them from their grandchild's birthday party, etc
There isn't a married woman out there alive that hasn't thought about not inviting her inlaws to a party or two. Come on man.

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Seemed like she did it constantly.

The beginning of the story started out as two cheesy starry eyed lovers madly in love with one another.
She talks about how she didn't deserve him, how great of a man he was, had her daughters sing to their daddy that he was a hero, etc. If anything, she was annoying in the opposite way. I don't get where you're saying she pestered him the entire time. She starting doing that when: 1. she was pregnant, and 2. he started working out and started ignoring her. That was about halfway into the story. I'm gonna say it again. Pregnant women can be erratic and irrational on a fricking dime. Makes sense to me that she would start flying off the handle there.


I feel like you got it in your head that you watched this and kind of had sympathy for Chris Watts so anything the wife did, you didn't pay full attention to the story or missed pieces of it and connected the dots any old way you wanted them to be. I'm not saying she's completely void of fault in the way she acted. But the stuff you're choosing to harp on can easily be explained and simply say that she was annoying. There is nothing about the way that she acted that would tell me she deserved to be killed. Nothing.

How do you explain what Chris Watts did? You can't.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:55 am to
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However, I would have divorced her...not killed her and two kids.


I love how everyone feels like they have to include this comment in their posts.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10361 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:56 am to
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My basic take away


You do see how you are victim shaming here... right?

I think we all just need to hear that.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:56 am to
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She was a narcissist. Anyone that thinks the world needs to see everything in her life on facebook certainly is.
However, I would have divorced her...not killed her and two kids.
Before Facebook she would just be a gossipy bitch....facebook gave her and everyone else a platform.




^This guy gets it^
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:59 am to
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I guess you missed the part about the inlaws not showing up to their wedding because they didn't like her.


Seems like they failed miserably raising their son, but were also a good judge of character.

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There isn't a married woman out there alive that hasn't thought about not inviting her inlaws to a party or two. Come on man.


I'm sure a lot of people have thought about a lot of things. Doing them makes someone different, does it not?

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I feel like you got it in your head that you watched this and kind of had sympathy for Chris Watts so anything the wife did, you didn't pay full attention to the story or missed pieces of it and connected the dots any old way you wanted them to be. I'm not saying she's completely void of fault in the way she acted. But the stuff you're choosing to harp on can easily be explained and simply say that she was annoying. There is nothing about the way that she acted that would tell me she deserved to be killed. Nothing.

How do you explain what Chris Watts did? You can't.



Oh for frick's sake. We're talking about two separate matters.

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32484 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:05 pm to
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friend of mine has dealt with this every day for years, and he hasn’t killed her.




Yet.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:07 pm to
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a good judge of character.
You don't pull a no show to your son's wedding because you don't like the wife. You're being selfish towards your son at that point. You suck up your pride and show up and be civil.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:07 pm to
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A friend of mine has dealt with this every day for years,


Why?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:08 pm to
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You don't pull a no show to your son's wedding because you don't like the wife. You're being selfish towards your son at that point. You suck up your pride and show up and be civil.


okay
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10361 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:12 pm to
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ou don't pull a no show to your son's wedding because you don't like the wife. You're being selfish towards your son at that point. You suck up your pride and show up and be civil.


Not everyone handles life the same. What a weird thing to make wild assumptions here, or try and say what someone should have done when you have zero facts, and were not there.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:15 pm to
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Seems like they failed miserably raising their son, but were also a good judge of character.


Considering he was the one that murdered the family, I'm not quite sure I would side with his parents' obvious notion that she was the one that wasn't good enough for him.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:16 pm to
So you're saying it's not selfish to pull a no show to your son's wedding? They explained the reason in the doc. They said it was because the parents did not like the wife.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:17 pm to
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Considering he was the one that murdered the family, I'm not quite sure I would side with his parents' obvious notion that she was the one that wasn't good enough for him.


Good thing I didn't do that then I guess.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Good thing I didn't do that then I guess.


Yeah you did but I have no interest in 5 pages of "Nuh uh" and "Uh huh" so whatever.

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but were also a good judge of character.

This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10361 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:23 pm to
I'm not saying it was selfish or wasn't... because I wasn't there. I don't know the full story. By going to a wedding you are telling the bride or groom that you support their marriage. They did not support it, for whatever reasons, and didn't go. Was that selfish? Perhaps, but perhaps they also weren't being fake?

If a friend of mine who had been abused by her boyfriend for years told me they were getting married, I would not go to the wedding. I wouldn't think that was me being selfish. My only point is, who knows the full truth to the story. It is odd to be judging this family that none of us know.

The only "take away" should be this guy had serious mental issues and should be locked up for life.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:25 pm to
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Yeah you did but I have no interest in 5 pages of "Nuh uh" and "Uh huh" so whatever.



Then I've got news for you. You accuse me of doing something I didn't do, I will call you a liar. And that's what you are. A liar.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:26 pm to
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but were also a good judge of character.



Yep, she was crazy.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
20989 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Chris was driven insane by Shannann


he wasn't driven insane. he fell in love with another women. thats why he got rid of his family.
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