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re: Amazon employees in Alabama vote to NOT unionize.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:24 pm to IAmNERD
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:24 pm to IAmNERD
quote:Well, he said that he was a manager, typically managers are salary exempt, which means that they don't get paid overtime
So why is that poster touting his union getting him those benefits?
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:24 pm to CourtJesster
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I challenge someone to list even one.
I can't but there may be some.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:25 pm to goofball
They have fired workers who have tried to unionize and been accused of intimidation many times. Been sued for unsafe working conditions, and alleged in many more.
Most of the cases are settled OOC.
Most of the cases are settled OOC.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:26 pm to dewster
Unions are akin to socialism.
They have a lengthy record of failure and have trouble taking root while the memory is still fresh.
But at regular intervals parasites put the feelers out to see if people still remember.
They have a lengthy record of failure and have trouble taking root while the memory is still fresh.
But at regular intervals parasites put the feelers out to see if people still remember.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:26 pm to fightin tigers
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They have fired workers who have tried to unionize and been accused of intimidation many times.
Not illegal. Neither is warning employees that unionization can jeopardize their own jobs and result in canceled plans for expansion.
Try again.
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Been sued for unsafe working conditions
You can be sued for anything. Being sued doesn't mean culpability actually exists.
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Most of the cases are settled OOC.
Also means nothing.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:28 pm to goofball
You're right. Bezos sticks to his liberal ideology and runs a tight ship filled with fairness and inclusion of everyone. 
National Labor Board disagrees with your first statement as well.
National Labor Board disagrees with your first statement as well.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:30 pm to fightin tigers
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You're right. Bezos sticks to his liberal ideology and runs a tight ship filled with fairness and inclusion of everyone.
Still waiting on what Amazon has done that justifies a corrupt group to collect a portion of wages for unskilled workers in an Amazon fulfillment center. Clearly the case for a union wasn't made to the people that work there, but that's not enough for you.
Looks to me like Amazon invested in a declining area and provided jobs with competitive wages for roles that didn't require any experience. The horror.
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National Labor Board disagrees with your first statement as well.
That's like saying that Biden agrees with Sao's stance on China. It's no surprise. And they are usually both wrong.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:35 pm to fightin tigers
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They have fired workers who have tried to unionize
Good for them and the workers.
If wages were too low or the work was too dangerous, the employees would all quit. Then Amazon would have to offer more compensation to fill those roles.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:37 pm to goofball
I'm not saying they should unionize. I'm saying I understand why people who work there would think their position will improve if they get working protections.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:47 pm to dewster
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Good news for Amazon’s expansion plans in the US.
Well I mean it’s not like a different country was going to be the local distribution hub for Alabama’s cheap Chinese crap.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:02 pm to EA6B
Not for salaried persons. My last 2 jobs didn't even comp time over 40 hours.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:21 pm to tduecen
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Amazon +1
People 0
by people he means Union leaders and democrat politicians.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:24 pm to waiting4saturday
So the union paid for an expensive campaign to increase their revenue, and it failed miserably. Sounds like a good day for America.
Jokes on us, we probably paid for the campaign in tax dollars.
Jokes on us, we probably paid for the campaign in tax dollars.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
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So really only about 1/6th of the workers even want a union enough to vote for it.
Dollars to donuts that of those 1/6, 90% weren’t born in Alabama.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:26 pm to fightin tigers
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Amazon bought that spot in NBR because it is close to what they need.
Correct, but not for the reason you are stating. It has nothing to do with labor in the neighborhood. That distribution center will draw employees in from 3/4 surrounding parishes.
Amazon bought Cortana because the physical property and connected infrastructure was exactly what they need for their distribution centers.
Quit trying to race bait.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:27 pm to fightin tigers
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I'm saying I understand why people who work there would think their position will improve if they get working protections.
As someone who has worked in a new facility, and is going back because a better shift opened up, the positions won't improve.
Amazon has an on site medical facility. Amazon has mandated stretch breaks and will terminate someone for breaking a safety rule. Amazon has extremely efficient training and some actual decent people working there. I say the positions won't improve because the positions are designed to do a single task for hours at a time unless the position has managerial duties.
The issue I've seen with people who work at Amazon that think they are being exploited is mainly they have this utopian idea of the world and don't understand how it would otherwise work. A union isn't going to change the fact that placing items in a bin for 10 hours a day is miserable.
Could Amazon be better? Absolutely, but so could everything. I haven't a clue whether unionizing at this particular location would be what's best for the people working there. You know why? Because it doesn't concern me. Because Amazon is a foot in the door position to gain some work experience and get decent pay and benefits while going to school.
If you are barking up Amazon's door because you want a stable career, I'm not sure what to tell you. They aren't very secretive about the fact that they don't want to employ humans for anything other than analytics at this point. They don't want people to stick around because it's antithetical to their business model. Once they figure out how to run an FC without Tier 1 employees, that's a wrap. People fighting for unionization aren't looking at the bigger picture. They need to be thinking 10, 20, 30 years in the future. Use Amazon as a tool to advance your career. Don't hitch yourself to Amazon because they are dumping cargo as quickly as possible.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:28 pm to Indefatigable
Not everything is a race issue.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:29 pm to dewster
GOP has the mouth breathers voting against their own self interest. Sad
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:30 pm to fightin tigers
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It is their MO in every major distribution site. It makes great business sense
Correct. It indeed makes fantastic business sense to expand/build into areas that already have the existing infrastructure. Hence, old malls, warehouses, industrial space, etc. It has nothing whatsoever to do with who lives in the nearby neighborhood or what their median income is.
These centers employ people from miles and miles around. They do not, and are never intended to rely only on labor from the adjoining zip code.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:31 pm to fightin tigers
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Not everything is a race issue.
This is not an exploitation issue either.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:32 pm
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