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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:44 pm to terd ferguson
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:44 pm to terd ferguson
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Yeah he didn't really have to do any searching... just pulled it right out.
Almost as if he knew exactly where it was like he saw him going for it. Sorry but this is a justifiable shooting.
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:44 pm to HammerheadLincoln
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New Video. He wasn't holding a gun
That is graphic AF. Damn.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:44 pm to tigerinDC09
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I'm starting to see how some people are already de-valuing this man's humanity
He was a pedophile. His humanity was devalued the second he was found guilty of that crime, everything else was just lagniappe.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:45 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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It looks like the cop that shot him sees he is going for a gun, is trying to stop his right arm from entering his right pocket and then shoots him in the chest.
My thoughts as well.
You can see the cop moving up and down trying to hold the guy's arm down, it appears. Cop draws weapon from holster and shoots right by it straight into the guy's chest. Rolls off, fires two more.
They will likely not even be charged, but they surely will not be convicted, but alas, that will not matter.
The dynamic here that is different from Ferguson is (1) we have multiple videos; and (2) the guy was armed.
Those combined will hopefully be mitigating factors.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:45 pm to UpToPar
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Whether they saw the gun or felt the gun while wrestling with him and whether he was reaching for the gun is still not clear.
the first part is 100% clear in the video
they scream "HE'S GOT A GUN" and they pull out their guns
it's at 7-8 seconds in the video
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:45 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Point to me where I insinuated that someone was lying.
"Why are people continuing to run with the narrative that he was going for his gun? There is nothing at this point to show he was going for his gun. "
LINK
So, you're insinuating the cops have lied by saying he was going for his gun. Do you need me to link more of your own posts?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:46 pm to shawnlsu
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He was a pedophile. His humanity was devalued the second he was found guilty of that crime, everything else was just lagniappe.
It looks like you want to move to North Korea.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:47 pm to tigerinDC09
New video just helps the officers IMO.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:47 pm to Solo
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As soon as the first shots are fired he throws the cops off of him, which leads to more shots
What?
In the second video, immediately after the initial shots, as the camera is turning, you see the cop that was straddling him getting pushed with his back towards the camera. When the camera gets back to him he's on his side with his gun facing Alton. Do you think the cop just did a roll to get himself into that awkward position or something?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Watched it a couple more times. There's very little effort when the cop removes the gun from his pocket. He doesn't go digging in the pocket... just reaches down and grabs it.
It's hard to tell from the video but when he's laying on the ground after being shot there's a dark spot where his pocket is... I'm wondering if the grip was sticking out and maybe that's what the cops saw and thought he was trying to get it.
It's hard to tell from the video but when he's laying on the ground after being shot there's a dark spot where his pocket is... I'm wondering if the grip was sticking out and maybe that's what the cops saw and thought he was trying to get it.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:48 pm to tigerinDC09
someone is painting the guy's face on front of the store
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:49 pm to tigerinDC09
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I don't know about you, but I see that as pretty upsetting. I'm starting to see how some people are already de-valuing this man's humanity.
Doesn't he kind of lose some of that "humanity" when he creates a dangerous situation by resisting arrest and carrying an illegal weapon that he threatened people with before the police even showed up?
What's upsetting to me is that I see two men who took on a pretty thankless job these days to protect a community and that community is now calling for their deaths for doing their job.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:49 pm to Salmon
you can tell that one cop is angry that they had to shoot him after when he's like frick! out of nowhere
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
True.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:50 pm to Puck82
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:50 pm to terd ferguson
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Watched it a couple more times. There's very little effort when the cop removes the gun from his pocket. He doesn't go digging in the pocket... just reaches down and grabs it.
It's hard to tell from the video but when he's laying on the ground after being shot there's a dark spot where his pocket is... I'm wondering if the grip was sticking out and maybe that's what the cops saw and thought he was trying to get it.
That's a very good observation. He does pull that gun out rather quickly.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:50 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:wish i could put sig quotes this long.
What's upsetting to me is that I see two men who took on a pretty thankless job these days to protect a community and that community is now calling for their deaths for doing their job.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:50 pm to crkelly91
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:51 pm to LSUTiger88
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When the camera gets back to him he's on his side with his gun facing Alton. Do you think the cop just did a roll to get himself into that awkward position or something?
From their positions, I think they both disengaged when the initial shots were fired and that Sterling sat up after the initial shots. So the officer that went to the ground shoots again, guy is now trying to get up and/or moving around, which would account for the shots in the back since the officer is now behind him.
Second officer either backed off and went behind guy with camera or stepped over Sterling's head when the camera pulls away since he comes from the right of the screen to retrieve the gun.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you can tell that one cop is angry that they had to shoot him after when he's like frick! out of nowhere
Yeah
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